Actually I believe blessedwife318 is swinging the correct way!
Lol.....yea she is now awake, thank God.
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Actually I believe blessedwife318 is swinging the correct way!
Yeah, OR made some really good points that no one could answerLol.....yea she is now awake, thank God.
Yeah, OR made some really good points that no one could answer![]()
Yes he gave me some good links that sum up Amill well.You can learn MUCH from him, imo. I love him bunches...
Yes he gave me some good links that sum up Amill well.
How can any be saved during the tribulation, seeing the church is raptured out and the Spirit's removed?
How does anyone get 1007 years betwixt the resurrection in light of Matthew 25, John 5:28-29, and Rev. 20, when it appears that all are standing before Him on the day of Judgement?
Not joining this fray, just want the other side's scriptural stance concerning these two questions. Thanks in advance...
Ahhhh Willis, be careful what you wish for.How can any be saved during the tribulation, seeing the church is raptured out and the Spirit's removed?
How does anyone get 1007 years betwixt the resurrection in light of Matthew 25, John 5:28-29, and Rev. 20, when it appears that all are standing before Him on the day of Judgement?
Not joining this fray, just want the other side's scriptural stance concerning these two questions. Thanks in advance...
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Never stated the church saved. It's the duty of the church, through the workings of the Spirit, to preach the gospel. If the church and Spirit are raptured out prior to the seven years of tribulation, how are those here saved when there is no one...see the church...to witness and preach the gospel to them?
I ask for clarification of your stance...thanks...
Yes. I use the terminology of systematic theologies (as well as you yourself) as a kind of shorthand to address the differences concerning the interpretations of scripture relative to a focused study e.g. The second coming of Christ. If you read my past posts you will see that I say "generally" I am dispensational because it easily identifies some of my views on the Second Coming of Christ.Which would make arguments that systematic theologies originated doctrine absurd.
Yes or no?
Do you see that you are doing this yourself (discrediting others Christians) by labeling them with the innuendo phrase of "blind dog"?That is something that is especially true in the Forums.
And when we apply that to the Doctrine of the Rapture, we can say that if any formalized media originated the Doctrine, it is that which was formalized in the Canon.
As far as popularity arising, well...even the blind dog finds the water-bowl every now and then.
Complex doctrinal positions such as dipensationlism have intersecting sets with other doctrine. When that is true and it is helpful to speak about the similarities either in content or history, I use it.No, it is the Dispensational View in the hot-seat in this thread, unless I am mistaken. At least in the post I responded to.
Calvinism fits the model as well, as does every System, Ism, sect, faith, group, or cult.
Actually Darrell, the doctrine of the Trinity developed over 3 centuries before what we now call the Roman Catholic Church in its ritualized form existed. The first clarification of the doctrine of the Trinity which was made from a collection of scripture was developed by Athanasius of Alexandria - circa AD 325 - and (here we go again with men's names) was called the Athanasius Creed.The OP does not have an obsession with Calvinism, but Darbyism. And his theme is that the Pre-Trib Rapture originated with Darby. If that is true, then we may as well say that the Trinity originated with Catholicism. Because they are the group which made this a dogmatic doctrine and first imposed it into a formalized setting.
True and the Holy Spirit has also provided the human element to the church to help us alongDifficult, yes, but impossible? I don't think so.
It is a contradictory concept to view the Word of God as given to men that they might understand God and His will and then make Scripture something that no-one can come to dogmatic conclusions about which can then be supported by the Word of God itself.
It is not a mystery book requiring a magic decoder ring, but given to men for the express purpose of knowing the will of God.
While some things are kept hidden as revelation is progressive, ultimately all things will be made clear, and this through the same enlightening method God has always used...the Holy Spirit.
Apparently you haven't read that passage of Scripture that that says Jesus Christ died on the Cross for national/ethnic Israel! Not to worry though, I haven't either. Now if one of these pre-cribbers would simply post it save a lot of time.
The guy is extremely well studied....he has all his marbles at an advanced age can exegete properly. You go brother OR you go!
Two beats one. They at least make more noise rattling around!Well....when u only had 2 to begin with...:smilewinkgrin:
Two beats one. They at least make more noise rattling around!
Two beats one. They at least make more noise rattling around!
Great! Thanks! I now have thoughts of preachers in the stand rattling their change in their pockets trying to preach...
I just don't understand the literal interpretation they used in light of Rev 1 and it's allegorical view of Christ and the seven churches of Asia Minor...