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Deacon Eligibility

Discussion in '2000-02 Archive' started by mark, Jan 8, 2002.

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  1. Dr. Bob

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    Greek for "women" is also translated "wives". But nowhere do I see it saying or implying "women deacons". Did my Greek NT leave out a word?
     
    #21 Dr. Bob, Jan 23, 2002
  2. David Cooke Jr

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    So where does Phoebe fit into this?
     
    #22 David Cooke Jr, Jan 23, 2002
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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by David Cooke, Jr.:
    So where does Phoebe fit into this?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    She doesn't. Phoebe was a church member particularly noticed for her service. The term diakonos is used many times in Scripture, usually without reference to the office of deacon. Such is the case in Rom 16.
     
    #23 Pastor Larry, Jan 23, 2002
  4. TomVols

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    Pastor Larry is correct. The Greek word is used to describe government, Christ, Paul, the apostles, et.al. Phoebe being called a servant doesn't validate the practice of women serving as deacons.
     
    #24 TomVols, Jan 23, 2002
  5. David Cooke Jr

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    So diakonos was never used to mean deacon? I'm depending on you two for my Greek translation here. What word(s) did Paul use for deacon?
     
    #25 David Cooke Jr, Jan 23, 2002
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    Yes it was, but many times it wasn't. I'll expand on this in the morning when I'm not battling insomnia :D

    [ January 24, 2002: Message edited by: TomVols ]
     
    #26 TomVols, Jan 24, 2002
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    If I may...but I'll definitely give final word to TomVols.

    David, the word "yom" is used many times throughout the Old Testament, and literally translated, it means "day." But in one area, it refers to a 24-hour period, another it refers to a long period of time, and yet in another it's ambiguous. But the word still means "day," just as diakonos means "servant." One has to read the context in which the word is used to determine if we're talking about "deacon" or just plain "servant."
     
    #27 Don, Jan 24, 2002
  8. grantb

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    What about a man that fights God's man and God's word and clings to the traditions of some association over the word of God.

    Is he still eligable??? :eek:
     
    #28 grantb, Jan 28, 2002
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    That type of person who is a deacon in NAME only is really a "Diotrephes" who desires his OWN agenda over being a servant of the Body of Christ. In Third John we read: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>I wrote to the church, but Diotrephes, who loves to be first, will have nothing to do with us. So if I come, I will call attention to what he is doing, gossiping maliciously about us. Not satisfied with that, he refuses to welcome the brothers. He also stops those who want to do so and puts them out of the church. Dear friend, do not imitate what is evil but what is good.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Imitators of the good - what a title for all of us to live up to!
     
    #29 Dr. Bob, Jan 28, 2002
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