debate Challenge

[TaterTot]

I have had to have extensive dental work as well, and I do not have dental insurance. But if I had put it on a credit card, I would never have gotten it paid for, just because of the interest. Most places will work with you and formulate a planto help you get what you need and pay for it. This also worked when we had a child who had to have tests run at the hospital and we were in between insurance.

As for the debate, you wont find any scriptures to support your use of the credit cards/debt in any translation of the Bible. Maybe thats why no one wants to debate you.

 

[JamieinNH]

But I will debate on IIdb.org if you are up to the challenge.

I think it's funny that you come off so hard against our brothers and sisters here when you forfeited a challange you were in over at this site.


Jamie

 

[Revmitchell]

I seperate it because I have been to school and can differiantate between the two.

I do not have the time to get into this, but if you do research you will discover over 9 different branches of theological study.

Doctrine is only and primarly concerned with the study and exegesis of the bible alone.

Theology is the study of God. Theo=God, ology=study. The bible and all doctrines contained within are Gods revelation of himself. Theology and doctrine cannot be seperated. Theology contains doctrine and doctrine is Theology.

 

[Bible John]

Yes and my point is that some teach against debts period. Other like myself teaxch that the bible forbids takking on debts.

I think fiscal mismanagement is irresponsible, but hardly a basic biblical topic whether KJV or any other version.

Certainly there is a life principle involved. If we over indulge in spending more than we earn, eventually it catches up. One needs to sit with a financial counsellor, not a spiritual guide.

I don't think there is any debate in this. We can quote scripture until we are blue in the face, and it won't change the picture one iota.

God is faithful and just and He even supports idiots by times. He even supported me when I made bad choices.

Cheers,

Jim

 

[JamieinNH]

Just today for example I had to put a large amount on my CC to cover costs that my insurance would not.

I had no choice.

I need a better paying job, or I need better teeth.

I have to agree with TaterTot, I just had some work done. I had to replace a crown and two fillings. The doctor let me pay $100 and then set up a payment plan for the rest without interest.

If you wanted to, you can survive without credit cards. Credit cards are just the easy way out in my opinion.

I have two credit cards and neither of them have a balance. It's not easy, but it can be done.


Jamie

 

[Revmitchell]

Okay go to iidb.org with the link I provided and debate me there.

Most of the people there are atheist and they can use a christian vs. christian debate.

A foolish endeavor. With motives that are highly suspicious.

 

[Bible John]

Theology is the study of God. Theo=God, ology=study. The bible and all doctrines contained within are Gods revelation of himself. Theology and doctrine cannot be seperated. Theology contains doctrine and doctrine is Theology.

This is partly correct.

I have a big article on this, but its in my Palm Pilot and I need ro leave soon.

But I think if you went to bible school you would understand the difference between studying Historical Theololgy and studying the bible.

 

[Bible John]

A foolish endeavor. With motives that are highly suspicious.

15but [a]sanctify (A)Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready (B)to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the (C)hope that is in you, yet (D)with gentleness and (E)reverence;

 

[Bible John]

I have to agree with TaterTot, I just had some work done. I had to replace a crown and two fillings. The doctor let me pay $100 and then set up a payment plan for the rest without interest.

If you wanted to, you can survive without credit cards. Credit cards are just the easy way out in my opinion.

I have two credit cards and neither of them have a balance. It's not easy, but it can be done.


Jamie

Perhaps if I had a new car. But I'm afraid my car has cost more than my paycheck many times. I live in a remote area without busses so I can only travel by car.

 

[Bible John]

I think it's funny that you come off so hard against our brothers and sisters here when you forfeited a challange you were in over at this site.


Jamie

What challenge?

 

[Bible John]

I have had to have extensive dental work as well, and I do not have dental insurance. But if I had put it on a credit card, I would never have gotten it paid for, just because of the interest. Most places will work with you and formulate a planto help you get what you need and pay for it. This also worked when we had a child who had to have tests run at the hospital and we were in between insurance.

As for the debate, you wont find any scriptures to support your use of the credit cards/debt in any translation of the Bible. Maybe thats why no one wants to debate you.

I will and I have.

Perhaps you can prove me or wrong, or continue to make claims.

 

[Bible John]

I have had to have extensive dental work as well, and I do not have dental insurance. But if I had put it on a credit card, I would never have gotten it paid for, just because of the interest. Most places will work with you and formulate a planto help you get what you need and pay for it. This also worked when we had a child who had to have tests run at the hospital and we were in between insurance.

As for the debate, you wont find any scriptures to support your use of the credit cards/debt in any translation of the Bible. Maybe thats why no one wants to debate you.

Well I claled Hanagraaf once and even he said that the bible does not forbid CC's. It only forbids not paying them. This is the difference between me and some peope.

 

[Revmitchell]

This is partly correct.

I have a big article on this, but its in my Palm Pilot and I need ro leave soon.

But I think if you went to bible school you would understand the difference between studying Historical Theololgy and studying the bible.

I do not know from what school you come from but It appears to be Liberal like Stetson University or Samford. Which ever it is a school that seperates Theology from scripture isnt worth two cents. If that were even possible.

 

[Eric B]

Say, John, you seem to be looking for debates, as somepone pointed out; and at the same time, you've been talking about touchet1611 a lot lately.
Well, go to the music forum, because he is back over there, today! ("Diversity of opinion")

Did you see the PM I sent you on this?

 

[JamieinNH]

Perhaps if I had a new car. But I'm afraid my car has cost more than my paycheck many times. I live in a remote area without busses so I can only travel by car.

I also drive a beater of a car. a 1993 Jeep Cherokee that has more dirt holding it together that the body, since the body is rusted out because of the salt from the snow storms.

It also has about 200,000 miles on it, but it works.

I can full relate to your situtation, and I can tell you that it is possible to get out of debt and live a fairly normal life.

Jamie

 

[JamieinNH]

What challenge?

I was talking about the challenge between you and Pervy over at the other site you want everyone to go to.

Jamie

 

[TaterTot]

Since when is Hank Haanegraf an authority?? I dont care what he says. And no, I wont debate you. You arent really out for a debate. You just want to make yourself look better.

 

[PastorSBC1303]

Face it Bible John, TaterTot would chew you up and spit ya out :tongue3: :wavey:

 

[JamieinNH]

You arent really out for a debate. You just want to make yourself look better.

I agree

Face it Bible John, TaterTot would chew you up and spit ya out :tongue3: :wavey:

I agree


Jamie

 

[TaterTot]

Thanks guys, lol, but Tater's supposed to be on a diet.