Debate comments…

[Baptist Believer]

I am no fan of the MAGA movement, but where was this hunger for “Enforcement of the rule of law” when sitting President Clinton committed perjury while giving testimony in court, under oath, to avoid consequences of his past sexual harassment.

He was impeached for that, but Senate Republicans decided they would have better luck in the coming election with a disgraced Bill Clinton than President Al Gore, so they made a craven decision not to convict. I loudly opposed the Republicans not convicting.

In addition to the political consequences, Clinton also faced legal consequences for his perjury. You must be quite young not to know that.

Go look it up.

 

[Baptist Believer]

You have repeatedly claimed DT repeatedly lied during the debate. Please name the top ten lies DT told during the debate.

No. It would not be kind to you.

We (you and me) have gone round and round on Trump's lies, but you are only interested in me spoon-feeding you good information, only for you to swat it away, say I haven't demonstrated anything, and then move on to the next topic and expect me to scramble to spoon-feed you again.

If you actually want to know, there are plenty of fact-checks out there that you can use as a starting place to find out for yourself.

I’ll respond to one they claimed was a lie. DT said some states allow for the killing of babies after birth. That is true, not a lie. I think the “fact checker” called it “total fiction”.

It is total fiction. Since we have never discussed this one, I will spoon-feed you this. I am nearly certain you will reject it

DT gave the example of a Governor that was asked what to do if a baby was born alive during an abortion. The Gov stated they would set the baby aside and let the mother decide with the doctor whether to kill that baby.

False. That claim leaves out vital information AND makes the assertion that doctors would "kill" (proactive) the baby instead of simply letting it die (not using extraordinary means to artificially keep oxygen in the blood and artificial means to keep blood moving) because it is non-viable. In a diagnostic setting, it means that there is NO chance of the newborn infant surviving. The only thing they MIGHT be able to do is to prevent cellular death artificially. This sort of thing happens when fetuses develop without a brain or other catastrophic deformities.

Unless you think that hospice centers are places where people take their loved ones to be "killed," then what Trump and a lot of right-wing media claims is a lie.

Go listen to the interview in question.

I do not trust CNN to tell the truth about anything concerning DT. For them to say “he said this but it isn’t true””…, means absolutely nothing to me.

For probably the tenth or eleventh time, (outside of the right-wing media echo chamber) fact checks do not exist for you to simply believe whatever the fact checker says, but to be used as a guide to logic and objective sources for the reader to continue their pursuit of truth. You are SUPPOSED to go check the sources so you will learn how to think for yourself instead of waiting for someone to spoon-feed you like a child. At least children have curiosity and open-mindedness to learn about things beyond their personal experience. It seems that most adults around here do not.

 

[canadyjd]

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Afghanistan was as inept as anything I've seen. It's true that Biden had little or no direct involvement with the latter, but "The Buck Stops Here!"….

Biden was deeply involved in the Afghanistan withdrawal.. He went against military leaders recommendations on timelines, airbases closing, leaving 100+ billion in military equipment behind.

He ordered the strike that killed a dozen civilians including many children. Don’t give him a pass on the decision making. He was the main pusher for a quick withdrawal.

peace to you

 

[MrW]

I watched it all. Biden’s age isn’t the problem. His politics have been wrong his entire life. Now, he also has a bad case of dementia. It was embarrassing to see him on stage.

President Trump did excellently, considering he had to debate a man with dementia. It was like an adult debating a two year-old.

President Trump has already proved during his first presidency that he is far superior to Biden. Biden’s 3 1/2 years have been horrible. Trump is the best man in America to be president for the next four years.

 

[Revmitchell]

You have repeatedly claimed DT repeatedly lied during the debate. Please name the top ten lies DT told during the debate.

peace to you

Don't hold your breath. He has often made claims about bills and politicians he cannot back up but then refuses to do so and then attacks the person who is asking for his evidence. He says things like you wont' believe him, or he has tried before and you did not respond as he wanted you to. It's always someone else's fault for not being able to support his wild claims.

 

[Revmitchell]

Biden was deeply involved in the Afghanistan withdrawal.. He went against military leaders recommendations on timelines, airbases closing, leaving 100+ billion in military equipment behind.

He ordered the strike that killed a dozen civilians including many children. Don’t give him a pass on the decision making. He was the main pusher for a quick withdrawal.

peace to you

Yea I was surprised someone made the claim. There can be no withdrawal from a war without the Presidents involvement. This one was one of the worst withdrawals in history.

 

[Logos1560]

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[JonC]

I watched it all. Biden’s age isn’t the problem. His politics have been wrong his entire life. Now, he also has a bad case of dementia. It was embarrassing to see him on stage.

President Trump did excellently, considering he had to debate a man with dementia. It was like an adult debating a two year-old.

President Trump has already proved during his first presidency that he is far superior to Biden. Biden’s 3 1/2 years have been horrible. Trump is the best man in America to be president for the next four years.

I agree except the last part. While Trump is certainly the best choice between Harris (or Biden), I am not sure that we can say that he is the "best person in America to be president".

(Just picking on ya.....I know neither of us knows every person in America).

 

[JonC]

I am no fan of the MAGA movement, but where was this hunger for “Enforcement of the rule of law” when sitting President Clinton committed perjury while giving testimony in court, under oath, to avoid consequences of his past sexual harassment.

Or Biden was not charged because he was an old man with a poor memory.

 

[canadyjd]

Or Biden was not charged because he was an old man with a poor memory.

So, since when do prosecutors give a pass to old men with poor memories for felonies committed decades earlier? He didn’t think a jury would convict a sympathetic old man with a poor memory. Maybe if they mentioned he raped a woman and took showers with his teenage daughter the jury would be less sympathetic.

This was, BTW, similar reasoning Coomy used to recommend no charges against Hillary. He stated no prosecutor would take the case (even though she clearly committed felonies).

It was just a way to show preference to a political elitist. It is, literally, a different set of rules for “us” and everyone else.

just shameless.

peace to you

 

[JonC]

So, since when do prosecutors give a pass to old men with poor memories for felonies committed decades earlier? He didn’t think a jury would convict a sympathetic old man with a poor memory. Maybe if they mentioned he raped a woman and took showers with his teenage daughter the jury would be less sympathetic.

This was, BTW, similar reasoning Coomy used to recommend no charges against Hillary. He stated no prosecutor would take the case (even though she clearly committed felonies).

It was just a way to show preference to a political elitist. It is, literally, a different set of rules for “us” and everyone else.

just shameless.

peace to you

I agree. But that is how it always is with Democrats.

They kicked Republicans off of committees for what they said, but complain when Republicans do it. They called Trump a fake President but complain when Republicans do it. They weaponize the justice system against Trump and warn that Republicans may do it against them.