Featured Debt vs. Penal Substitution

I mean "You fight with the strength of many men, Sir Knight." (Monty Python and the Holy Grail, 1975)

 

Yes. It has been "best practices" on this forum that we do not use mockery when addressing other members including making changes to their given name.

I have no idea how you feel about your given name, but I am named after my Grandfather who was a remarkable man who made our name one of respect and honor.

To refer to me as "Jack" is an insult of the highest order.

 

Not necessarily. Aquinas argued that by virtue of merit, not suffering "our" punishment but bearing punishment on our behalf, Christ satisfied the demands against us.

Only in Penal Substitution Theology is this a spiritual and eternal punishment (or its equivalent) that Christ suffered. Aquinas viewed Christ as bearing punishment (associated with taking on our nature) that satisfied the eternal consequences we would otherwise face through divine merit. Anselm viewed Christ bearing punishment (associated with the Incarnation) to restore honor (again, satisfaction made).

 

And you have my apology if, in fact, you believe I was calling you "Jack" rather than presenting an idea (again in the form of an un-cited lyric) encompassing more than a simple name. I meant the reply to be taken as a whole.

In my opinion your assertion that I was calling you "Jack" is without merit as I believe you smarter than that.

 

As this thread has devolved into a childish game of one upmanship I am closing it pending Administrative Review.

 

Keep it closed.

 

I agree. Perhaps another thread can continue the meaningful part of the dialogue without the distractions.