Decisional JUSTIFICATION - Sovereign SANCTIFICATION

[skypair]

is it possible that God makes some accept grace and others He gives a choice?

Absolutely NOT! Resist the theology that claims that some or all have no choice. Would God not be a liar to say "God so loved the WORLD that He gave His only begotten Son that WHOSOEVER believeth on Him should not perish but have everlasting life." The issue is "whosoever believeth," not "whosoever God chose."

For me it seemed like a choice, but the decisions was already on my heart that I couldnt resist at the same time, if that makes sense.

You give yourself more credit than you deserve, then, zrs6v2. You didn't even know Christ before you heard and the ONLY thing that could have "clued you in" on God's plan might be your conscience.

its like Pharaoh, did he have a choice whether or not to let the Hebrews go? He did, but at the same time God had complete control.

Both are valid points. God was in control in this sense -- if Pharoah agrees, the Jews leave Egypt. If Pharoah doesn't agree, the Jews leave Egypt! God gave Pharoah the opportunity to make the right choice and "save himself" from the Red Sea of God's wrath! Pilate could have "pushed" Jesus back on the Jews instead of trying to "save his own skin." But "what does it profit a man if he save his life but lose his own soul?" Human choice is what makes it personal with God.

how can God be 3 people yet one at the same time? (retorical ?)

Take yourself. You are soul (conscience), spirit (mind, emotions, will), and body. Suppose God could separate YOU into 3 "persons." One part, your soul, would be "in charge" and eternal either life or death. One part, your spirit, would be all your "grey matter" and would "glorify" your wisdom and life. :laugh: One part would be your body -- just like Christ, the "palate" of God's beauty, your body is the palate of your wisdom and mind. :thumbs:

Well, that is what God did. There is not really a way to say that His Spirit is someOne else's -- nor His body someOne else's. Yet He is Holy and Perfect throughout! And this is what He intends to make us like one "person" at a time! That is, He intends to JUSTIFY our souls, SANCTIFY our spirits, and GLORIFY our bodies until we are like His own Son!!! And that is why He chose to delineate Himself into 3 Persons.

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[MB]

is it possible that God makes some accept grace and others He gives a choice? theres nowhere in the bible where it says things are fair correct?
For me it seemed like a choice, but the decisions was already on my heart that I couldnt resist at the same time, if that makes sense..
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Grace is simply unmerited favor in that no one is deserving of Salvation. If we are saved it's because of God's mercy. Of course we believe but our faith is only the hope of Salvation. It's up to Christ not us. We can come to Christ in a humble way but the proud are rejected. If a man is convinced of the gospel truth and believes it. It's possible. God searches the heart of us all. No one slips in unnoticed.

it seems there are many things to go back and fourth on, but is it possible that God has the authority to chose between the decisions? would you call it unfair if He said you have the choice and to the other He forces?

God doesn't respect one man over another.

its like Pharaoh, did he have a choice whether or not to let the Hebrews go?

Didn't Moses ask Him?

He did, but at the same time God had complete control.. Its kind of beyond comprehension and it will make your brain pop, I guess.

God had control because He knew Pharoah's answer before he was asked to let God's people go. God could have raised up someone else as He did Pharoah.

how can God be 3 people yet one at the same time? (retorical ?)

Me, Myself, and I. They all refer to me but in different ways.
The Father is a different position than the Son's or the Spirit and like wise for all three. Same God for all three but, different positions of presence.
We are also a trinity. We are Body, spirit, and soul. Yet we are all one person with three different positions of presence, all at the same time.
MB