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church mouse guy

church mouse guy

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SavedByGrace said:
it does not have to be so named, it is very clear in their statement on the article on God, as I have shown above
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It was not discussing subordination at all. I myself have never met anyone who believed in subordination. It was talking about what the three persons do and how they each have different functions. For example, only Jesus took on human flesh and sits at the Right Hand.

It clearly states that God is without division of nature, essence, or being. I don’t know how it could be clearer.
 
SavedByGrace

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church mouse guy said:
It was not discussing subordination at all. I myself have never met anyone who believed in subordination. It was talking about what the three persons do and how they each have different functions. For example, only Jesus took on human flesh and sits at the Right Hand.

It clearly states that God is without division of nature, essence, or being. I don’t know how it could be clearer.
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I suggest that you study the issue of subordination in the Godhead, and then read the statement again. It is very clear to me that the language used in this statement, shows a clear subordination in the Godhead, which is impossible.
 
church mouse guy

church mouse guy

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SavedByGrace said:
I suggest that you study the issue of subordination in the Godhead, and then read the statement again. It is very clear to me that the language used in this statement, shows a clear subordination in the Godhead, which is impossible.
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why don’t you explain how no division of nature, essence, or being indicates subordination. Subordination is cultic in my opinion.
 
SavedByGrace

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church mouse guy said:
why don’t you explain how no division of nature, essence, or being indicates subordination. Subordination is cultic in my opinion.
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here it is again

A. God the Father

God as Father reigns with providential care over His universe, His creatures, and the flow of the stream of human history according to the purposes of His grace. He is all powerful, all knowing, all loving, and all wise. God is Father in truth to those who become children of God through faith in Jesus Christ. He is fatherly in His attitude toward all men.

The words that I have highlighted are used only for God the Father, as though He alone is all of this! as the "source" within the Godhead. Remember that this is taken from part of the statement of "God", as from eternity past, not just in revelation.
 
church mouse guy

church mouse guy

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SavedByGrace said:
here it is again

A. God the Father

God as Father reigns with providential care over His universe, His creatures, and the flow of the stream of human history according to the purposes of His grace. He is all powerful, all knowing, all loving, and all wise. God is Father in truth to those who become children of God through faith in Jesus Christ. He is fatherly in His attitude toward all men.

The words that I have highlighted are used only for God the Father, as though He alone is all of this! as the "source" within the Godhead. Remember that this is taken from part of the statement of "God", as from eternity past, not just in revelation.
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That’s His office. Only Jesus took on human flesh and sits at the Right Hand of the Father. That’s His Office. And so forth. Go back up and read the part about God and you will see that we believe that there is no division of any sort.
 
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Scott Downey

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SavedByGrace said:
here it is again

A. God the Father

God as Father reigns with providential care over His universe, His creatures, and the flow of the stream of human history according to the purposes of His grace. He is all powerful, all knowing, all loving, and all wise. God is Father in truth to those who become children of God through faith in Jesus Christ. He is fatherly in His attitude toward all men.

The words that I have highlighted are used only for God the Father, as though He alone is all of this! as the "source" within the Godhead. Remember that this is taken from part of the statement of "God", as from eternity past, not just in revelation.
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God is not fatherly in his attitude to all men. God is not the Father of all men, Jesus clearly explains the difference in John 8

42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
 
SavedByGrace

SavedByGrace

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Scott Downey said:
God is not fatherly in his attitude to all men. God is not the Father of all men, Jesus clearly explains the difference in John 8

42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
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"GOD so Loves the human race..." (John 3:16) This is the Three Persons, Father, Son and Holy Spirit! There you have it.
 
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