Dems Pass Pay-as-You-Go Bill 60-40

[FR7 Baptist]

The Senate voted 60-40 on Thursday to require that new legislation be paid for; no Republicans voted for the bill. "Strict pay-as-you-go budget rules created record surpluses in the late 1990s," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a California Democrat, said. "And when this standard was abandoned under President Bush, it created record deficits."

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[carpro]

It's just political gamesmanship. It will not cut the deficit one cent, since entitlements get a pass.

Why does it matter when democrats continually lie about the cost of legislation they want?

Healthcare is the perfect example.

 

[Revmitchell]

Spend, raise taxes no one has, spend more, raise more taxes no one has and on and on and on.......

 

[targus]

Spend, raise taxes no one has, spend more, raise more taxes no one has and on and on and on.......

You have that right.

They will spend whatever they want on whatever they want and then just slap someone with a tax.

When the increased taxes cause revenue to decline they will just impose even more taxes.

And around and around and down the rabbit hole our economy will go.

And then they will blame Bush.

What these morons can't figure out is that they need to cut spending - drastically.

 

[Trotter]

From the article:

President Obama proposed the legislation back in June. "Paying for what you spend is basic common sense," he said in submitting the proposal. "Perhaps that's why, here in Washington, it's been so elusive."

Emphasis mine.

Hahahahahahaha... Good one, Zero. That hasn't stopped you or your Congressional knee-breakers thus far, so why stop now? Oh, that's right... you're not stopping but are only paying lip service to a notion that EVERYONE ELSE IN THE COUNTRY HAS TO LIVE BY EVERY DAY!!!!!

Responding to the growing debt, the Senate also voted 60-49 Thursday to raise the debt ceiling by nearly $2 trillion, again with no Republican support. The bill would allow the United States to hold up to $14.3 trillion in debt, but must first be approved by the House.
Despite voting against the pay-as-you-go bill, Republicans have decried the growing deficit under the Obama administration.

Emphasis mine.

Sort of a continuing trend. The Dems have the numbers so they are going to ram evertything they can through... no matter what the cost.

Democrats still control 60 seats on the Senate. Massachusetts Democratic Sen. Paul Kirk has not yet been replaced by Republican Scott Brown, who was voted into office last week in what was widely interpreted as an ominous sign for Democrats in the upcoming November elections.

Again, emphasis mine.

Big surprise. I do so hope that this November blows the liberals out fo the water. If it doesn't happen then it will show just how far the intelligence level of this nation has fallen.

 

[Crabtownboy]

I think it is a great idea. I am surprised that some conservatives on the board have not said the same. I am not surprised that some Obama haters are negative, same old, same old.

The Commonwealth of Virginia had a pay as you go policy the entire time I was growing up there. No debt, just pay as you go .... good for the family budget, good for a state, good for a nation. While many on the board believe I am a liberal in all areas it is not true. I am a fiscal conservative, but liberal when it comes to caring for people. I follow a pay as I go philosophy in my personal life and believe that is the philosophy all people should follow ... and all governments, except in extraordinary circumstances, measures of last resort.

Remember: Proverbs 22:7
The rich rule over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.

 

[exscentric]

"I think it is a great idea."

Most probably do, however....

"I am surprised that some conservatives on the board have not said the same."

Probably would but they know that democrats can never succomb to their own grandiose ideas. Spending is who they are, it is in their dna, it is what they do. :thumbs:

 

[Crabtownboy]

"I
Probably would but they know that democrats can never succomb to their own grandiose ideas. Spending is who they are, it is in their dna, it is what they do. :thumbs:

GASP! Do you mean that Clinton was a closet Republican? :laugh:

 

[rbell]

I think it is a great idea. I am surprised that some conservatives on the board have not said the same. I am not surprised that some Obama haters are negative, same old, same old.

The Commonwealth of Virginia had a pay as you go policy the entire time I was growing up there. No debt, just pay as you go .... good for the family budget, good for a state, good for a nation. While many on the board believe I am a liberal in all areas it is not true. I am a fiscal conservative, but liberal when it comes to caring for people. I follow a pay as I go philosophy in my personal life and believe that is the philosophy all people should follow ... and all governments, except in extraordinary circumstances, measures of last resort.

Remember: Proverbs 22:7
The rich rule over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.

I agree...but this wasn't "pay as you go," since there are so many exemptions to it.

It's pretty much laughable for 95% of congress (close to 100% of D's) to act in any way as though they are trying to curb costs. They've done nothing but incur debt (to a crippling level) ever since they were coronated.

You can tell they're lying...their lips are moving.

 

[carpro]

It's called setting the stage for massive tax increases, cutting the defense budget (ala clinton) and more creative accounting.

 

[Martin]

If the Democrats and Republicans actually practiced pay as you go I would be impressed. Until then I'm not impressed.

 

[Revmitchell]

If the Democrats and Republicans actually practiced pay as you go I would be impressed. Until then I'm not impressed.

Pay as you go without cutting programs means nothing. Pay as you go while implementing unconstitutional programs means nothing. This is more rhetorical wrangling from the admin that knows not how not to tell a lie about everything. He would rather climb a tree and tell a lie than to stand flat footed on the ground and tell the truth.

 

[targus]

The Commonwealth of Virginia had a pay as you go policy the entire time I was growing up there.

Yeah, but that was way back in the old days before they invented the income tax... :laugh:

 

[Crabtownboy]

Yeah, but that was way back in the old days before they invented the income tax... :laugh:

I am old and I admit it ... but I am not that old. :laugh:

 

[Crabtownboy]

Pay as you go without cutting programs means nothing. Pay as you go while implementing unconstitutional programs means nothing. This is more rhetorical wrangling from the admin that knows not how not to tell a lie about everything. He would rather climb a tree and tell a lie than to stand flat footed on the ground and tell the truth.

Let's hope it would cut down on ear marks.

 

[just-want-peace]

CTB sez:

I think it is a great idea. I am surprised that some conservatives on the board have not said the same. I am not surprised that some Obama haters are negative, same old, same old.

Oh, it's a GREAT idea!!!

It is one of the few that he has espoused that actually makes sense.

The reason conservatives don't get excited is that we know it's just another lie - he has no intention of following through!!!!

Now IF and WHEN he does, I'll be the first to applaud him; but, unlike his Nobel Prize, simple talk and no results just ain't gonna cut it!!!

 

[targus]

Let's hope it would cut down on ear marks.

Ain't going to happen.

Before making a big show of applauding Obama during his State of the Union address, Pelosi instructed everyone to be sure to get their earmarks in to her before March 3rd.

The standard operating procedure for the dems has become to tell the public one thing and then do exactly the opposite.

 

[carpro]

Republicans need to be on the alert. Every bill has to be scrutinized carefully.

Democrats put everyone on notice that they intend to circumvent the legislative process on healthcare and cap and trade by breaking the bills up and passing bits and pieces a little at a time by attaching amendments to other "must pass" bills.

That means you have to ask the question, what else is in this bill besides "pay as you go"?