SavedByGrace
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Biden will prove to be the WORST POTUS the US has ever had. With the remarks of Biden and Waters, the judge should have declared a mistrial. Do you suppose any of the jury heard either of these two?
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Dershowitz predicts Derek Chauvin's conviction will be overturned, citing Maxine Waters, Al Sharpton
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Biden will prove to be the WORST POTUS the US has ever had. With the remarks of Biden and Waters, the judge should have declared a mistrial. Do you suppose any of the jury heard either of these two?
You very well could be correct - - He still has 45 months to go - We'll see.
A big test comes up in Nov of 22 ---- how many seats in Congress will Biden win or loose
Traditionally, the party of the President normally looses seats.
as of today 566 days till the election for Congress.
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I have hears some say that they were sequested and was not aware of what was said.
Others say they did -
I do not know -
Does anyone have valid info on that.[/QUOTE]
SavedByGrace
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do you know for a fact, that ALL of them are?
RighteousnessTemperance&
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Yes, there can be a big difference between those deeply embedded, serving as leaders and operators, and those merely following without understanding.
Just the hardcore ones, as marxism big tenet is that there is no God but the state!
RighteousnessTemperance&
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And scientism rears its ugly, hyper-arrogant head again.
Not necessarily. Did Paul know that all Cretans were liars?
SavedByGrace
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strawman!
You or Paul?
RighteousnessTemperance&
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[/QUOTE]AFAIK, no juror has admitted they heard anything.
They were not sequestered until Monday when closing arguments began.
The likelihood that at least some knew is very high. One would have to avoid practically all media, including entertainment media, to avoid mention of the case. The judge only relied on presumption of avoidance, but never ordered they refrain from all media.
No, they weren't sequestered until the end and they knew all about the settlement before trial (construed as an admission of guilt) and the BLM/Max/Biden threats, at least according to this alternate juror:
Juror in Derek Chauvin trial speaks out after guilty verdict | kare11.com
" I did not want to go through rioting and destruction again and I was concerned about people coming to my house if they were not happy with the verdict."
Weally and wooly? Now what "people" would come to her house because they didn't like the verdict? Gee, I wonder.
Juror in Derek Chauvin trial speaks out after guilty verdict | kare11.com
" I did not want to go through rioting and destruction again and I was concerned about people coming to my house if they were not happy with the verdict."
Weally and wooly? Now what "people" would come to her house because they didn't like the verdict? Gee, I wonder.
RighteousnessTemperance&
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And then there’s this little gem (already mentioned elsewhere? déjà vu confuses me a lot
):Christensen: I am sad for him too. I wish it didn't have to happen. I do not know how it goes from a $20 counterfeit bill to somebody dying. He should have just written him a ticket and let him go. I think it got out of hand quick.
Such is the mentality of some jurors, even after three weeks of trial. Yep, Chauvin, who arrived on the scene as they were attempting to put him in the car after being arrested, “should have just written him a ticket and let him go.” That one belongs right up there with, “Why didn’t the cop just shoot the knife out of her hand?”
Drugs - and resisting arrest
RighteousnessTemperance&
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Yes. and lots of it.
But she had "only" three weeks to assimilate all of the information, and most of the trial was focused by the prosecutors away from those "minor" details.
Did she actually watch the video of the entire episode, or was she too busy misjudging the witnesses?
I can hear her now: What drugs? What resisting arrest? The prosecutors said he was acting perfectly normal and being fully compliant.
RighteousnessTemperance&
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However, the points being made aren't about her alone but about what jurors were exposed to, what they were going through, what was going through their minds.
The judge did not tell jurors which were alternates until time for deliberations. All of her experiences prior were as a typical juror who would probably deliberate.
canadyjd
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Or she just spoke for herself and from her experience and fears.
Until one of the jurors that voted to convict says something different, I’m going to believe they only considered the evidence, as instructed by the judge, and ignored public opinion, as instructed by the judge, and came to that decision based on the evidence.
peace to you
RighteousnessTemperance&
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Believe what you wish, but the truth is that we know for sure one juror was very exposed, and she wasn't even given to much social media. She also wasn't given to clear judgment.
Another way of saying it is that, of the jurors we know about, 100% were exposed to outside influence and fearful of the consequences of returning a not guilty verdict.
Wishful thinking does not make for sound decisions. Not moving the venue and not sequestering the jury were both surefire ways to ensure miscarriage of justice in such a public case. The combination only made it doubly so, or worse.
Not just the denial for the change of venue and this judge's refusal to sequester, it's also the huge settlement to the Floyd family pre-trial, the prosecution didn't fully disclose and the jury intimidation by not only BLM and other far-left activists. but by people who should have known better like Joe Biden.
I think Elison knows there's a good chance for a reversal, why the deep state are hedging their bets:
DOJ investigating if Derek Chauvin should be charged over a 2017 arrest | Daily Mail Online.
The Just Us department, still wish somebody could explain to me how this could have been second-degree unintentional murder at all. Three weeks of court, ten hours of deliberation with no questions asked or no request for one transcript while they were "deliberating" in such a technical case? Note that the zatfig alternative said she would have found him guilty as well, she claims to have been so impressed with that one doctor that said Chauvin killed him with his knee alone by just looking at the videotape. This doctor knew he put 700 pounds of pressure on Floyd somehow, doesn't seem credible. But this juror was super-impressed by that, it's what she wanted to hear. Kangaroo soviet-style show trial, call BLM for her next time she's in trouble.
I think Elison knows there's a good chance for a reversal, why the deep state are hedging their bets:
DOJ investigating if Derek Chauvin should be charged over a 2017 arrest | Daily Mail Online.
The Just Us department, still wish somebody could explain to me how this could have been second-degree unintentional murder at all. Three weeks of court, ten hours of deliberation with no questions asked or no request for one transcript while they were "deliberating" in such a technical case? Note that the zatfig alternative said she would have found him guilty as well, she claims to have been so impressed with that one doctor that said Chauvin killed him with his knee alone by just looking at the videotape. This doctor knew he put 700 pounds of pressure on Floyd somehow, doesn't seem credible. But this juror was super-impressed by that, it's what she wanted to hear. Kangaroo soviet-style show trial, call BLM for her next time she's in trouble.