Thank you for explaining how you reason this out. I look forward to your thoughts regarding Adam.Our understanding of God and our present reality must begin in the context of Adam and creation because that is where God started. I have read the whole Bible where much more revelation is given and I have made some conclusions based upon what I have read. One interesting thing that God has said is here.
Isa 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
From that I understand that what God says in his book is reasonable and logical and so that is the way I approach all of it. I approach it as if God is trying to make sense of what he says and that I should also.
I know from reading the scriptures that God wanted to live in Adam, whom he had created, and he did. That is not far fetched. Jesus Christ said if we would have life he must be inside of our bodies, because he said "I am the way, the truth, and THE LIFE. He said that he that hath (present tense) the Son hath LIFE. He said "this LIFE" (eternal life) is in his Son. Jesus Christ said in Jn 6 that a man must eat his flesh and drink his blood to have life. The point according to the context was he cannot help if he is on the outside, he must be in the body to give life.
Now I must begin my reasoning abilities because I know that Jesus when he said that was a physical man, probably 6 ft tall and weighing in about 175 or so lbs. Then I read that he was put to death, but he was resurrected in a physical, yet glorified body in which he ascended to heaven to sit on the right hand of the Father on his heavenly throne where he remains to this very day.
This made me wonder then how Jesus Christ can dwell in my body. He is nearly as big as me, and he is in heaven. How can this be? Well, it must be because God surely put this verse into the record at least 90 years after Jesus Christ had ascended to heaven. Read it for yourself.
1Jo 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
1Jo 5:6 This is he that came (to the world) by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. (Remember Jn 1:5 - in him, in his body, was LIFE = the Spirit of God)
The water is the similitude of the Spirit of God and the life of the flesh is in the blood, God says somewhere else. So, Jesus Christ was connected in life to God and to man by the Spirit (God) and the blood (body = man).
9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
12 He that hath the Son hath life; [and] he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
[ Jn 6:62 What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?
63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.]
The divine trinity
1Jo 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
The divine Man
1Jo 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. (Spirit, soul, body of Jesus Christ)
He is divine and he is human.
(Spirit, water, and blood are all life giving agents.
9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
Now, concerning Adam, one must reason out the life that God gave Adam in the garden. When did Jesus Christ become life. What does it mean that Adam died in the day he ate the forbidden fruit? What exactly happened to Adam when he died? What does it mean when we are told he lived 930 years and he died? Well, it takes some reasoning together with God and the application of some logic and some belief of the truth, which are the words of God, to understand these things.
I would like to make some of my personal thoughts about what happened in the garden with Adam in my next post. Now I have a doc appt.
I have come to abandon some of the things I had reasoned from Scripture. The reason is I have found often what people do when reasoning out Scripture is to reason away Scripture (not that I am saying you are doing this - but in the past I did). I have come to take Scripture a bit more literal than I did in the past. At one time I agreed with Reformed doctrine and dismissed the early church understanding as too simplistic, but as I have aged I have come to see a greater spiritual depth in the "simple" rendering.
That isn't to say we don't reason together. Just that reasoning together does not necessarily mean coming to an agreement or being disagreeable in our disagreements.
I hope your doctor's apt goes well.