Did Bush take Christ out of Christmas?

[preacher]

Ain't it amazing how someone can start a topic on one particular subject, & it wind up waaaay out in left field? Oh Well.

 

[LadyEagle]

Like I asked in my earlier post "I suppose that means God's Holy Word or the truth won't change your mind?"

It is a sad day in america when Gods people won't stand up for what is right, because of how something makes them feel. go ahead worship your reincarnated yule log. I'm sure God doesn't mind a little competition once a year. You know, a bit of romans 1 worshipping the creature more than the creator.

My Family used to celebrate "Christ's birth" on the 25th. But did we realy? NO, we celebrated a pagan holiday for us (I want presents, I want a Christmas tree,I,I,I...very selfish unholy day)not Christ.
How about a little scripture
Ec 7:1 -
A good name is better than precious ointment; and the day of death than the day of one's birth. K.J.B.(emphasis mine)

Sorry I had to bring the BIBLE into this.

Merry Festive Pagan Holiday

My birthday is Feb. 3.

This is all good(with the exception of Christmas cards and unscriptural songs), but why base it all on a lie? Doesn't the truth have any weight anymore?

Tear up your calendars, then, fellas, cause even the months of the years were named by those pagans, the Romans, and some months named in honor of their pagan gods.

Calendar Name Origins - Names of Months
January - ME Januari(us), OE Januarius, translation of Latin Januarius, named after JANUS, god of beginnings.
February - ME OE Februarius from Latin Februarius, named for Februa, the feast of purification.
March - ME March(e), from Latin Martius, (month of) Mars.
April - ME Averil, OF Avril, Latin Aprilis mensis (month). The name may derive from the Greek goddess of love, Aphrodite.
May - ME OE Maius, Latin Maius mensis (month), from the Greek Maia, goddess of spring (growth).
June - ME Jun(e), OE Iunius, from Latin mensis Junius, named after the goddess Juno, Queen of the gods.
July - ME Julie, OE Julius, from Latin Julius (Caesar) after whom it was named in 44 BC. The original name was quintilis, fifth month in the early Roman calendar.
August - ME OE Agustus from Latin Augustus (Caesar) 8 BC. The original name was sextilis, sixth month in the early Roman calendar.
September - ME Septembre from Latin September, seventh month in the early Roman calendar
October - ME OE from Latin October, eighth month in the early Roman calendar
November - ME OE from Latin November, ninth month of the early Roman calendar, from novem NINE
December - ME Decembre from OF and Latin December, tenth month of the early Roman calendar (decem TEN + membri from mens MONTH + ri suffix).

ME = Middle English
OE = Old English
OF = Old French
OHG = Old High German

http://www.calendar-origins.com/calendar-name-origins.html

I guess the Jewish calendar won't serve your purposes either, since "First, all of these things were never given to Christians, they were given to the Jews."

My Family used to celebrate "Christ's birth" on the 25th. But did we realy? NO, we celebrated a pagan holiday for us (I want presents, I want a Christmas tree,I,I,I...very selfish unholy day)not Christ.

If your family celebrated December 25th and didn't reflect on the real meaning of Christmas, only wanting gifts for themselves, then I would respond that as a parent, it was YOUR reponsibility to teach your children what the true reason is we celebrate Christmas - the Birth of Jesus Christ. If it became a selfish unholy day, that is your fault, not that of your Christian brothers and sisters who celebrate His Birth, IMO.


Glad you brought the BIBLE into this conversation:

Col. 2:[13] And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
[14] Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
[15] And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
[16] Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
[17] Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

Merry Christmas.

 

[citizenofheaven]

The Calendar is pagan, I won't argue. The difference is you have the CHOICE of celebrating christmas. We use the pagan calendar out of neccesity. If you use the Jewish calendar, no one will know what you're talking about (Unless you're in Israel).

Does God use the Pagan calendar? I wonder?

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My Family used to celebrate "Christ's birth" on the 25th. But did we realy? NO, we celebrated a pagan holiday for us (I want presents, I want a Christmas tree,I,I,I...very selfish unholy day)not Christ.

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If your family celebrated December 25th and didn't reflect on the real meaning of Christmas, only wanting gifts for themselves, then I would respond that as a parent, it was YOUR reponsibility to teach your children what the true reason is we celebrate Christmas - the Birth of Jesus Christ. If it became a selfish unholy day, that is your fault, not that of your Christian brothers and sisters who celebrate His Birth, IMO.

I am the Son in this matter. My parents tried to make the excuse we were doing it for the Lord, like most Americans. But christmas is not of the Lord, so to justify it that way is kinda' hard.

Merry Festive Pagan Holiday

 

[Johnv]

Originally posted by paulsfocus:
I suppose that means God's Holy Word or the truth won't change your mind?

God's Holy Word does not forbid me to celebrate Christmas as I do. In fact, God's Holy Word preserves the privilege of me esteeming one day over another if I so choose, and permits me to be so convinced in my mind if I so choose. Too bad folks like you feel the need to interfere with that which God's Holy Word guarantees me.

If you want to celebrate a pagan holiday it's no skin off my back.

No it's not. So kindly get off mine.

But don't call it a Christian holiday, when that holiday's origin is satanic.

I'll call it what I like. It's a Christian holiday in my home, in my family, and in my church, whether you like it or not, and scripture permits it, whether you like it or not.

I'm with Lady Eagle on this one. Merry Christmas, everyone!!!!