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Did God Depart from Jesus on the Cross?

JonC

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The way I see it.

Obviously, the Servant, the Christ felt he had been forsaken of God the Father. How had the Father forsaken him? Was it not by laying on him the iniquity of us all, that is making him who had no sin to be sin? And what does sin, when it is finished [ more words Christ said on the cross] being forth? James 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

Therefore I ask, was Christ forsaken unto death by the Father? What was the means by which he became unforsaken?

Acts 2:31 NKJV “he, foreseeing this, spoke concerning the resurrection of the Christ, that His soul was not left in Hades, nor did His flesh see corruption.

Not forsaken in Hades. Are not forsaken in Matt and left in Acts not derived from the same word? καταλείπω (G2641)

Did the resurrection release him from being forsaken in death, in the realm of the dead?
I do see the resurrection as this deliverance from death. So my answer is "yes". Jesus was forsaken in that He was not delivered from suffering and dying.

We sometimes feel the same - share a similar reality. We may be going through something crying out "why have you forsaken me?". But like Jesus on the cross we can trust that God will never abandon us. We may suffer and even die, but He will also deliver us.
 

Paleouss

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Obviously, the Servant, the Christ felt he had been forsaken of God the Father.
Greetings percho. I hope your week has started out to be a good one. :)
Therefore I ask, was Christ forsaken unto death by the Father?
By this rhetorical question, :), do you mean to say that Christ was forsaken due to the inequity of us all that was laid upon him (meaning sins, plural?). This inequity that was laid upon him led to that which is the end of sin, i.e., death. Therefore, God the Father forsook Jesus unto death (meaning He let Him die). Further, the reason Jesus was forsaken was due to the iniquity that was upon Him.
What was the means by which he became unforsaken?
I agree, the resurrection.

I have an offshoot question from what you have suggested. You presented Acts 2:31. In that verse it says that "His soul was not left in Hades" (focusing of "not left in"). This seems to imply that Jesus, after His death on the cross, went directly to "Hades". As in, He went to where death takes one that has sin.

And here is my question that is an offshoots of the topic in this post.

(Question) Does Christ experience "torments" in Hades? Cross referencing Acts 2:31 with Luke 16:23.

(Luke 16:23 NKJV) 23 "And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

(1Co 15:55 NKJV) 55 "O Death, where [is] your sting? O Hades, where [is] your victory?"

Peace to you brother
 
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