Did God Inspire "Words" or "Thoughts"

[Forever settled in heaven]

Originally posted by Askjo:
Lamb == seal pup - (Wycliffe translation in Eskimo)
Fig tree == Banana tree (Wycliffe translation)
Blood == death (TEV)
Snow == coconut (United Bible Societies translation)

can u provide their reasons for each of those lexical choices?

i hear that there were some similar "changes" in the KJB, too, altho i think i know the reasons, e.g.:

Denarius == penny
Stadia == leagues
Mizraim == Egypt

 

[Askjo]

Originally posted by Forever settled in heaven:
i hear that there were some similar "changes" in the KJB, too, altho i think i know the reasons, e.g.:

Denarius == penny
Stadia == leagues
Mizraim == Egypt [/QB]

Please provide your references for these words above. Please give me verses.

 

[BrianT]

I find this one in the KJV very interesting:

"reviled him" = "cast the same in his teeth" (Matt 27:44)

It has the *exact* same Greek as in Mark 15:32, which simply says "reviled him".

Yes Joseph, I like the Denarius == penny ones too. Same with pence, farthings and pounds. Jesus must have had some sort of time machine and took back a whole bunch of 17th century British currency to the ancient Jews.

 

[Forever settled in heaven]

Originally posted by Askjo:
Denarius == penny
Stadia == leagues
Mizraim == Egypt [/QB]

Please provide your references for these words above. Please give me verses. [/QB][/QUOTE]

i'm surprised that u don't have a Strong's Concordance.

here's where u can do it for urself online: gospelcom.net

nonetheless, for "penny":

Search words "penny" 10 results. |


Matthew 20:2
And when he had agreed with the labourers for a penny a day, he sent them into his vineyard.
(Whole Chapter: Matthew 20 In context: Matthew 20:1-3)


Matthew 20:9
And when they came that were hired about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny.
(Whole Chapter: Matthew 20 In context: Matthew 20:8-10)


Matthew 20:10
But when the first came, they supposed that they should have received more; and they likewise received every man a penny.
(Whole Chapter: Matthew 20 In context: Matthew 20:9-11)


Matthew 20:13
But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny?
(Whole Chapter: Matthew 20 In context: Matthew 20:12-14)


Matthew 22:19
Shew me the tribute money. And they brought unto him a penny.
(Whole Chapter: Matthew 22 In context: Matthew 22:18-20)


Mark 6:37
He answered and said unto them, Give ye them to eat. And they say unto him, Shall we go and buy two hundred pennyworth of bread, and give them to eat?
(Whole Chapter: Mark 6 In context: Mark 6:36-38)


Mark 12:15
Shall we give, or shall we not give? But he, knowing their hypocrisy, said unto them, Why tempt ye me? bring me a penny, that I may see it.
(Whole Chapter: Mark 12 In context: Mark 12:14-16)


Luke 20:24
Shew me a penny. Whose image and superscription hath it? They answered and said, Caesar's.
(Whole Chapter: Luke 20 In context: Luke 20:23-25)


John 6:7
Philip answered him, Two hundred pennyworth of bread is not sufficient for them, that every one of them may take a little.
(Whole Chapter: John 6 In context: John 6:6-8)


Revelation 6:6
And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
(Whole Chapter: Revelation 6 In context: Revelation 6:5-7)

for "league"--my bad, it's "furlongs" (but the same point sticks):


Luke 24:13
And, behold, two of them went that same day to a village called Emmaus, which was from Jerusalem about threescore furlongs.
(Whole Chapter: Luke 24 In context: Luke 24:12-14)


John 6:19
So when they had rowed about five and twenty or thirty furlongs, they see Jesus walking on the sea, and drawing nigh unto the ship: and they were afraid.
(Whole Chapter: John 6 In context: John 6:18-20)


John 11:18
Now Bethany was nigh unto Jerusalem, about fifteen furlongs off:
(Whole Chapter: John 11 In context: John 11:17-19)


Revelation 14:20
And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.
(Whole Chapter: Revelation 14 In context: Revelation 14:19-21)


Revelation 21:16
And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.
(Whole Chapter: Revelation 21 In context: Revelation 21:15-17)

for "Mizraim" there r too many to list: just look up "Egypt" in the OT.

 

[Anti-Alexandrian]

Denarius == penny

For what it is worth,a Penny is identified by a D;that D stands for Denarius. Just my $.02 worth(get it?)

 

[Forever settled in heaven]

Originally posted by MV-neverist:
For what it is worth,a Penny is identified by a D;that D stands for Denarius. Just my $.02 worth(get it?)

nope i didn't.

care to explain the joke?

 

[Ed Edwards]

Revelation 6:6
And I heard a voice in the midst of the
four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny,
and three measures of barley for a penny;
and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

The money and measures are significant signs
of what is going on regarding the inspiration
of the Holy Scriptures. For the money shows
the necessity of retranslating even such good
translations as the KJV1611. When it was
written the readers knew that a penny was
a good day's wages for an unskilled laborer.
So this passage speaks of a time when a days
wages will buy enough food for the livestock
or enough food for the family, but you might
as well forget about having any high class
food like cooking oil or wine.

Things have changed since 1611.
Now a penny is a worthless coin.
If i get one in change, i leave it on the
counter -- it isn't worth carrying about.

So the best a translator can do is use
the term "Denerias" and footnote that
it is a Greek coin worth a day's wages.
If you try to put a day's wages instead
of a Greek coin, you have to have a new
translation every twenty years or less.

 

[Forever settled in heaven]

Originally posted by Edifier:
So the best a translator can do is use
the term "Denerias" and footnote that
it is a Greek coin worth a day's wages.
If you try to put a day's wages instead
of a Greek coin, you have to have a new
translation every twenty years or less.

the consistent FE translator wld say "Denarius."

the consistent DE translator wld say "a day's wages."

neither wld have to have a new translation every 20 yrs!

 

[Pastor Larry]

Originally posted by Edifier:
So the best a translator can do is use
the term "Denerias" and footnote that
it is a Greek coin worth a day's wages.
If you try to put a day's wages instead
of a Greek coin, you have to have a new
translation every twenty years or less.

Why?? Just put "a day's wages" and that will never have to be changed. A "day's wages" will always be true, no matter what the money is. Of course, in a society that doesn't get paid by the day anymore, that will have to be explained as well.