Did I write in gentleness and respect?

[evangelist6589]

If you are looking only for constructive feedback and not debate and/or argument, then you should post in the Fellowship forums, specifically "Missions / Witnessing / eVangelism". Posting in the debate forums opens your thread for debate.

Better idea. However I fear not many visit that form.

 

[evangelist6589]

Yep. If I were to wish to confront a church over their doctrine (which I do not because it is not my place to do so), I would not write a letter. I would make an appointment to speak with the pastor to learn exactly who they are and what exactly they believe.

:thumbs:

"Whom."

That may be my next assignment as I have already sent out 10 letters to 10 different churches. I may pick another to sit down and chat. I had a Universalist Church in mind. Or perhaps I might just follow up on the 10 different churches whom I sent letters.

 

[evangelist6589]

But I did answer you. Any time your words reek of overtones (I have concerns) and undertones (unless I've misread your site), it is not done in meekness, humility and respect.

There is a subtle difference between over- and undertones. Neither is proper when trying to correct someone.

Its a big step in humility than the way that Jesus addressed the false teachers, and also some of the language used in the NT to describe them.

Sometimes I will use that approach and I have with a few churches whom I sent letters, It just depends on the degree of false teacher and church.

For example I would address a Quantum Faith church differently than a American Baptist church because as best I can tell Quantum holds to the essentials.

 

[evangelist6589]

Can't help but be reminded here of the old Mac Davis song....."Its hard to be humble but I'm doing the best that I can."

I am not sending any letters to any Andy Stanley clone church in the Denver area because as best I can tell they hold to the essentials of the faith, so I would be divisive and in error for doing so.

 

[Rolfe]

That may be my next assignment as I have already sent out 10 letters to 10 different churches. I may pick another to sit down and chat. I had a Universalist Church in mind. Or perhaps I might just follow up on the 10 different churches whom I sent letters.

I would question the wisdom of this. At times, you seem easily influenced by others' doctrines. Just be VERY careful.

This is not "unkindness", but a brotherly warning based on Christian concern.

 

[evangelist6589]

I would question the wisdom of this. At times, you seem easily influenced by others' doctrines. Just be VERY careful.

This is not "unkindness", but a brotherly warning based on Christian concern.

Thanks but thats really your opinion. I care enough about the lost to reach out to them.

 

[JamesL]

Its a big step in humility than the way that Jesus addressed the false teachers, and also some of the language used in the NT to describe them.

Sometimes I will use that approach and I have with a few churches whom I sent letters, It just depends on the degree of false teacher and church.

For example I would address a Quantum Faith church differently than a American Baptist church because as best I can tell Quantum holds to the essentials.

I agree on that Jesus spoke strong condemnation against false teachers. However, it is worth noting that He didn't set out on a mission to confront them and correct them. He confronted them when they tried to interrupt His daily dealings with the people.

And He didn't try to reason with the unreasonable. He proclaimed truth, and His reasoning was with people who had a genuine interest in the truth.

Look at the woman at the well and Nicodemus, who He spent time convincing. Yet He spoke parables to Jews who were hard hearted.

There's a time and place for everything, and a proper approach toward people. Paul also spent time reasoning with people who were interested. And those who weren't....well, he shook the dust off his feet and went on

 

[evangelist6589]

I agree on that Jesus spoke strong condemnation against false teachers. However, it is worth noting that He didn't set out on a mission to confront them and correct them. He confronted them when they tried to interrupt His daily dealings with the people.



And He didn't try to reason with the unreasonable. He proclaimed truth, and His reasoning was with people who had a genuine interest in the truth.



Look at the woman at the well and Nicodemus, who He spent time convincing. Yet He spoke parables to Jews who were hard hearted.



There's a time and place for everything, and a proper approach toward people. Paul also spent time reasoning with people who were interested. And those who weren't....well, he shook the dust off his feet and went on

Read Acts 17. Paul did not only reason with people that wanted to hear his message as you claim. Also why were the apostles murdered and why so many maurters for the gospel over the years? What you say is a great way to avoid persecution but not the bible way.

Read the Jesus you Can't ignore by Mac. It's a commentary on Jesus in this area.

 

[JamesL]

Read Acts 17. Paul did not only reason with people that wanted to hear his message as you claim. Also why were the apostles murdered and why so many maurters for the gospel over the years? What you say is a great way to avoid persecution but not the bible way.

Read the Jesus you Can't ignore by Mac. It's a commentary on Jesus in this area.

It seems that you seek validation thru being persecuted. Jehovah's Witnesses make this errant connection, too. If the message alone doesn't bring persecution your house way, then your message isn't truth

 

[quantumfaith]

I agree on that Jesus spoke strong condemnation against false teachers. However, it is worth noting that He didn't set out on a mission to confront them and correct them. He confronted them when they tried to interrupt His daily dealings with the people.

And He didn't try to reason with the unreasonable. He proclaimed truth, and His reasoning was with people who had a genuine interest in the truth.

Look at the woman at the well and Nicodemus, who He spent time convincing. Yet He spoke parables to Jews who were hard hearted.

There's a time and place for everything, and a proper approach toward people. Paul also spent time reasoning with people who were interested. And those who weren't....well, he shook the dust off his feet and went on

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[evangelist6589]

It seems that you seek validation thru being persecuted. Jehovah's Witnesses make this errant connection, too. If the message alone doesn't bring persecution your house way, then your message isn't truth

What you say is not biblical nor did I ever say I would be persecuted.

 

[JamesL]

What you say is not biblical nor did I ever say I would be persecuted.

Huh?!?

Paul said, and it is the truth, that the cross is an offence. That means - simply put - that if you preach the cross, people will become offended. Jesus also said we would be hated for His Name.

There is absolutely ZERO admonition to go looking for an opportunity to correct, condemn, or coerce people into a theological position that's false from the word "go"

So what if they leave their falsehood, and fall into the ditch of Lordship Salvation? What's been accomplished? They leave one error for another, and end up no better off?

That's great.

Or you could go out in the streets and preach the cross. Stop it with your self righteous works-based message that you mask with theological words like "repentance and sin"

That's nothing but a millstone around the neck of any who fall prey to it.

Preach Christ and HIM crucified. Mac and Washer did not die for the church. Trust CHRIST, the spotless Lamb of God.

And after you've preached Christ, and not some sinfully contrived "response" doctrine that pushes Christ aside for fleshly works, then trust GOD ALONE to work in the hearts of men.

Get down off your pedestal of self-appointed fruit inspector and preach Christ.

 

[go2church]

At least I am doing something. All you do is criticize me.

You're the one opening that door. How about doing something, without announcing to the world what you're doing. How about doing something worth doing.

 

[plain_n_simple]

You're the one opening that door. How about doing something, without announcing to the world what you're doing. How about doing something worth doing.

:thumbsup: Watch his videos on youtube, extraordinary...

 

[corndogggy]

I know for certain that the church does not preach sound theology

heretics

I was not positive at all

hellfire heretics

false teachers

Who are you to judge?

http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=95740

 

[evangelist6589]

Who are you to judge?

http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=95740

We are to judge false teachers and what they preach.