It doesn't sound to me like you know Christ.
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Did Jesus Die On Your Cross?
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I will never die, so there will be no grave in which I am to be raised.
Scriptures state, "Absent from the body, present with the Lord."
Paul states the condition of the believer in this present world in these terms:
1Therefore if you have been raised up with Christ, keep seeking the things above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. 2Set your mind on the things above, not on the things that are on earth. 3For you have died and your life is hidden with Christ in God. 4When Christ, who is our life, is revealed, then you also will be revealed with Him in glory.
See, Paul considered himself already "raised up with Christ."
Btw, if you move over the numbers, you can click on them to see in context what Paul stated. The context relates directly to the point I think you are attempting to make.
PreacherOfTruth
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You have proved by your own words you were not crucified with Jesus. I do not care what anyone said except Jesus. I do not follow Paul or anyone else. I follow Jesus. How come you do not follow Jesus?
Paul said a lot of nonsense. Easy to prove it was nonsense. Would you like to debate it? I will with the greatest of ease prove it to be so.
Like saying you were crusified with jesus.
That is nonsense.
No one was crucified with Jesus but the 2 thieves and they were on their own cross.
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Woe up there, the hoss you are jumpin upon isn't yours to ride.
You seem to be equating the "bearing of the cross" with some human attribute that would guarantee assurance of salvation.
Not so.
Rather, Christ is showing how that only those who are willing to follow Christ are worthy of Christ. Just as Christ willing carried (until physically unable) the cross because that was His Father's will, the believer must be willing to follow the will of Christ.
37“He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. 38“And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. 39“He who has found his life will lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake will find it.
Christ didn't speak of the cross as something that was to be on some checklist, but an attitude of service of follow - ship and fellowship.
When I was still in my youth, the missionaries in Quito, Ecuador were slaughtered. They followed Christ to the end of their life. Unfortunately, not all believers get to wear the martyrs' crown.
Follow-ship is what is important - just as Christ followed the Father's will, so the believer follows the will of God. That is what Christ was attending, and which I am beginning to question if you actually comprehend.
PreacherOfTruth
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You need not worry about me. I have prove everything you have said to me to be nonsense so far. Like you saying you will never die. And you were crucified with Jesus. That right there is a contradiction.
PreacherOfTruth
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Jesus was offered up as a sacrifice to God. If anyone was crucified with Jesus on his cross then he could not have been the Lamb of God.
PreacherOfTruth
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No one was crucified with Christ. Jesus did not take no ones place on the cross but his own. To destroy the works of the devil. You have to follow Jesus to God. And that is through the cross. Your own cross. You have to offer up your self as a living sacrifice just like Jesus did. On your own cross. All this I have said is in the bible. Jesus said what I have stated here.
I don't know how long you plan on being part of the BB.
But the rules have a part about you being in no position to declare the salvation or lack thereof on another member.
Perhaps you should go back and edit some of your responses to not reflect this judgment.
But the rules have a part about you being in no position to declare the salvation or lack thereof on another member.
Perhaps you should go back and edit some of your responses to not reflect this judgment.
I will ask you the same question that Jesus ask Martha:
Do you believe what Jesus said to Martha applies to all believers?
You guys need to quit feeding that thing.
This poster is not a Baptist. He does not believe in the inspiration of the New Testament. Doesn't even pretend to believe it like Crabtownboy, who only pretends to believe it so he can spew his Socialistic propaganda.
Time to pull the plug on both of them.
That is not in the Bible. Jesus took his own place on the cross? He died for Himself? You mean He was the sinner he died for? He made an atonement for His own sins and not for the sins for others? We all have our own crosses so we all have to die for our own sins? What is this nonsense you are preaching.
Sounds like you have been listening to the heresies of Benny Hinn too long.
PreacherOfTruth
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I will tell you what. Why don't you prove what you said to be the truth. And while you are at it. Prove anything I have said to be incorrect.
I will debate you. And we will see who is who.
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1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
He was the just. We are the unjust. He took our place dying for the unjust that he might bring us to God.
PreacherOfTruth
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Show me where in the bible, Jesus said he took your place or anyone's place on the cross.
Show me where Jesus said anything other than his blood was for the remission of sins.
Post them verses right here where Jesus said.
Show me where Jesus said anything other than his blood was for the remission of sins.
Post them verses right here where Jesus said.
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