Did Jesus have long hair?

God said "long." What is long to you? </font>[/QUOTE]I heard a message once on the radio or something that went off the premise that a man back then and still today had to protect his family and community against sin and this passage pertained to a metaphor like meaning that a man should be prepared to fight and having long hair would give the enemy something to grab and give him an advantage. I can’t remember much of what the guy used to back up his premise but do remember it did sound logical. Sorry I can’t remember much at all of the scripture he used, I think a lot out of the OT including Samson, but one verse I do remember he used was:
(1Ti 5:8) But if any provide not for his own, and especially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

Going by this premise I would say if ones hair is long enough for the enemy to get a hold of to use against him in a battle against sin, it is a sinfully long.

 

Are you the one in the front, or in the back? If you are the man in the back, I would say your hair is not "long" from what I can tell. None of this is my definition. God used the term "long." I think he thought we would be smart enough to figure that out. When God leads me to preach on hair, I just preach on "long" hair being a shame and let the Holy Spirit do the convicting.

Pastor Mark. </font>[/QUOTE]Amen!

 

It makes absolutely no difference to me whether Jesus had long hair, short hair or was bald. </font>[/QUOTE]What if he had a mohawk?

Joseph Botwinick

 

For a man to have long hair is an abomination in the sight of God; for a woman to have short hair is an abomination in the sight of God. Since Paul gave his instructions to the church in Corinth and we know how both men and women wore their hair in those days in the Roman Empire, we have a very good standard of measurement.

But this thread is not about the standard of measurement—it is about the false teaching that what the Bible says does not matter if you don’t like what it says. And that also goes for what it does not say. It make no mention at all of voluntary abortion and at no time in Jewish culture was voluntarily aborting a fetus in the first trimester considered murder, so we have absolutely nothing in the Bible to indicate that it is in any way at all displeasing to God—all that we have is a lot emotional hype and superstition.

The Bible expressly says that it is a shame for a man to have long hair and that this is so obvious that even nature tells us so. But what do we have in Baptist churches today—a bunch of religious fanatics screaming their lungs out and polluting the earth with anti-abortion propaganda while encouraging overt homosexual behavior and every sin imaginable by claiming that preaching and teaching against the sins that the Bible actually mentions is legalism but preaching and teaching against imaginary sins that the Bible does not mention is being an upright and faithful Christian.

It is really a shame that pastors today cannot drop a microphone down into the fires of hell so that the Church today could hear the eternal cries of torment being suffered by those who chose to sin rather than obey God. We find the word hypocrite in eleven verses in the KJV and the word hypocrites 20 times in the KJV, and the KJV teaches that hypocrites shall have their reward in hell.

The Baptist church needs to start preaching the Bible and drop the emotional hype and superstition.

The Bible says,

1. Be imitators of me, just as I also am of Christ.
2. Now I praise you because you remember me in everything and hold firmly to the traditions, just as I delivered them to you.
3. But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ.
4. Every man who has something on his head while praying or prophesying disgraces his head.
5. But every woman who has her head uncovered while praying or prophesying disgraces her head, for she is one and the same as the woman whose head is shaved.
6. For if a woman does not cover her head, let her also have her hair cut off; but if it is disgraceful for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, let her cover her head.
7. For a man ought not to have his head covered, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man.
8. For man does not originate from woman, but woman from man;
9. for indeed man was not created for the woman's sake, but woman for the man's sake.
10. Therefore the woman ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels.
11. However, in the Lord, neither is woman independent of man, nor is man independent of woman.
12. For as the woman originates from the man, so also the man has his birth through the woman; and all things originate from God.
13. Judge for yourselves: is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered?
14. Does not even nature itself teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a dishonor to him,
15. but if a woman has long hair, it is a glory to her? For her hair is given to her for a covering.
16. But if one is inclined to be contentious, we have no other practice, nor have the churches of God. (NASB, 1995)

 

It makes absolutely no difference to me whether Jesus had long hair, short hair or was bald. </font>[/QUOTE]What if he had a mohawk?

Joseph Botwinick </font>[/QUOTE] ummm nope, don't matter

 

For a man to have long hair is an abomination in the sight of God? If that was the case, then God must have really hated every man who took the vow of a Nazarite. God even told Samson's mother that Samson would be a Nazarite from birth. That there was to be no razor to touch his head. Long hair is not an abomination.

Paul wrote 'Does not nature itself teach you that if a man have long hair, it is a shame?' Long hair on a man can be considered shameful, but certainly not an abomination.

 

it if was a cultural thing, then why not every other practice? Let's see, it was forbidden to sacrifice an unclean animal in the Holy Land, but on the other side of the world it may have been ok?

God gave Moses the Ten Commandments to be given to His people; the Israelites. Does that mean all those who are not of the bloodline of Jacob can lie, take God's name in vain, steal, covet, kill, break all the other laws? After all, wouldn't that be cultural too?

No, God's Word is for man. God is not a respector of person's when it comes to what He says is forbidden and what is accepted in His sight.

 

For a man to have long hair is an abomination in the sight of God? If that was the case, then God must have really hated every man who took the vow of a Nazarite. God even told Samson's mother that Samson would be a Nazarite from birth. That there was to be no razor to touch his head. Long hair is not an abomination.

Paul wrote 'Does not nature itself teach you that if a man have long hair, it is a shame?' Long hair on a man can be considered shameful, but certainly not an abomination. </font>[/QUOTE]Please show us in the Bible where shameful behavior is not an abomination in the sight of God.

 

Please show me where long hair is an abomination.

 

1. Be imitators of me, just as I also am of Christ.
2. Now I praise you because you remember me in everything and hold firmly to the traditions, just as I delivered them to you.
3. But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ.
4. Every man who has something on his head while praying or prophesying disgraces his head.
5. But every woman who has her head uncovered while praying or prophesying disgraces her head, for she is one and the same as the woman whose head is shaved.
6. For if a woman does not cover her head, let her also have her hair cut off; but if it is disgraceful for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, let her cover her head.
7. For a man ought not to have his head covered, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man.
8. For man does not originate from woman, but woman from man;
9. for indeed man was not created for the woman's sake, but woman for the man's sake.
10. Therefore the woman ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels.
11. However, in the Lord, neither is woman independent of man, nor is man independent of woman.
12. For as the woman originates from the man, so also the man has his birth through the woman; and all things originate from God.
13. Judge for yourselves: is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered?
14. Does not even nature itself teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a dishonor to him,
15. but if a woman has long hair, it is a glory to her? For her hair is given to her for a covering.
16. But if one is inclined to be contentious, we have no other practice, nor have the churches of God. (NASB, 1995)

 

That is not saying long hair is an abomination.

let's look at the word shame in the KJV for 1 Corinthians 11:14....

G819 atimia (1)
atimia at-ee-mee'-ah from 820; infamy, i.e. (subjectively) comparative indignity, (objectively) disgrace:--dishonour, reproach, shame, vile.
A SHAME (1)

I do not see it being an abomination. Only a shame.

Long hair on man my be an abomination in your thinking, but the Bible does not say it is in God's eyes

 

abomination

ABOMINA'TION , n.

1. Extreme hatred; detestation.

2. The object of detestation, a common signification in scripture.

The way of the wicked is an abomination to the Lord. Prov.xv.

3. Hence, defilement, pollution, in a physical sense, or evil doctrines and practices, which are moral defilements, idols and idolatry, are called abominations. The Jews were an abomination to the Egyptians; and the sacred animals of the Egyptians were an abomination to the Jews. The Roman army is called the abomination of desolation. Mat. 24:13. In short, whatever is an object of extreme hatred, is called an abomination.
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shame

SHAME, n.

1. A painful sensation excited by a consciousness of guilt, or of having done something which injures reputation; or by of that which nature nature or modesty prompts us to conceal. Shame is particularly excited by the disclosure of actions which, in the view of men, are mean and degrading. Hence it it is often or always manifested by a downcast look or by blushes, called confusion of face.

Websters 1828 Dictionary

 

This is exactly what society wants us to preach. Because, if we understand God's Word as being different for different cultures, then the world can justify their sin based on the culture in which they live. Thanks for the support to my original point.

Pastor Mark. </font>[/QUOTE]If there is a standard that is universal and perfect, what is it? I am not saying that long is ever acceptable. If God has one standard of long for all people, what is it?

A crew cut?
Off the ears and collar?
Off the shoulders?

 

There has been no claim that "long" is ever right. The definition of "long must either be universal for all men of all time, or it varies in the culture.

Do you truly think that John and Charles Wesley, John Bunyan, George Whitefield, and Jonathan Edwards were shameful in their hair styles?

 

The claim was by Craig that long hair is an abomination in God's eyes. I refute that. Nowhere in scripture can one see long hair is an abomination.

 

If you're a man, you should look like a man!

If you're a woman, you should look like a woman!

That's the long and short of it!

But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes. (2 Timothy 2:23)

 

And I agree with that SFIC.

 

you agree with Craig's statement that long hair is an abomination? or with the fact that nowhere in the Bible can one find proof that it is?

 

Did John and Charles Wesley look like men? How about John Bunyan? Their hair was MUCH too long for today's standards. Was their hair a shame?