Did Jesus 'rest' in the tomb?

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

The OP was, Did Jesus rest in the tomb?

To accommodate the idea, it is necessary to make Jesus altogether human in his suffering, death, and entombment -- Docetism, which means Jesus put off his Divinity in order to die.

Peter declared though: This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we are all witnesses ... Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made THAT SAME JESUS whom ye have cricified, both Lord and Christ." Christ rose from the dead - from the grave and death - Divinity in Himself as He did in human body of flesh (against the Jesu-Revolutionists). THAT SAME Jesus was He who went down into the hell of death: "Thou wilt not leave my soul in hell" (Acts 2:7).

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

BR:
"In Luke 24 we have the clear statement that the afternoon of the FIRST day of the week was the "THIRD DAY" since the trials and crucifixion and this was the very day that Christ was raised from the dead for HE himself said He would be raised "The Third Day"."

GE
Thanks, BobRyan --- from your own pen! But I give you the award to the utmost of my ability in currency, show me - give me the place - where I can go read these words: "and this was the very day that Christ was raised from the dead for HE himself said He would be raised "The Third Day"."

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

"... and this was the very day that Christ was raised from the dead for HE himself said He would be raised "The Third Day"."

Jesus said "the third day" He would rise; He did not say three days since or after, ther day He would be crucified on. The three days would include his crucifixion; His crucifixion would be the heart of the first of the three days.

But since you are such a staunch protector of the Divine Truth Jesus' resurrection is what would make the 'third day' that signicant day, and you with antichrist believe it was the Sunday, why don't you keep Sunday for reason of that Divin Truth?

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

You wilfully and illegitimately CONFUSE "the third day since" of the Emmaus disciples, for "The third day" of Divine Prophecy - despite their obvious chronological irreconcilability .

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

Then you turn the blind eye to the PROPHTIC significance of the Passover's second first day (Nisan 15) - the second day of the 'three days'. You ignore it and so nullify it - for to be able to accommodate Sunday in your scheming. Leave that to its protector-supreme the pope.

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

BR:
"In Luke 24 we have the clear statement that the afternoon of the FIRST day of the week was the "THIRD DAY" since the trials and crucifixion and this was the very day that Christ was raised from the dead for HE himself said He would be raised "The Third Day".

GE
The ONLY in the NT clear statement that - literally - "the afternoon of the SABBATH day" was the day "There was a great earthquake" etc. "WHEN God raised Christ from the dead", is Matthew 28:1. There are many other clear implications in the NT to the same effect, like 'in Luke 24' you referred to, where it implies a Sabbath resurrection, because if Sunday was the third day since the crucifixion, the crucifixion was on Thursday, and "the third day" of Prophecy would have been the weekly Sabbath.

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

BR:
"However on Friday He stated "IT IS FINISHED" in fact His work WAS finished on Friday JUST as HE said."

GE
'Tetelestai'-'Finished!' --- obviously Jesus' work of making atoning sacrifice - His work of suffering and dying consciously, alive and wittingly. Obviously, not, "ALL the works of God"; not, all, the "work the Father gave" Jesus "to do". Jesus Himself said, He would finish THIS, WORK, only on "the third day" - which was the day He rose on. So He worked through the THREE days and "on the third day", "finished ALL the works of God" by and in and through having been "raised from the dead the third day". Jesus did not 'rest in the tomb'. So what did He do? Was He consumed with anxiety? No, He triumphed in confidence, WORKING VICTORY.

 

[BobRyan]

BR:
"However on Friday He stated "IT IS FINISHED" in fact His work WAS finished on Friday JUST as HE said."

GE
'Tetelestai'-'Finished!' --- obviously Jesus' work of making atoning sacrifice - His work of suffering and dying consciously, alive and wittingly.

The point is that only after He rises on the third day does he do anything like "more work".

This is "why" the Bible says NOTHING about Jesus "doing work while dead or in the grave".

in Christ,

Bob

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

The greater context

Respect for detail equals respect for God’s Word; neglect of detail equals disrespect for God’s Word. One needs no knowledge of the Greek to see the detail – to see enough of it to the better understanding of and proper respect for, God’s Word.

What after respect for detail is of first importance for a right knowledge of the Word and Will of God, is simply ‘good sense’ (as Luther said). Which one should never let go of with regard to the least of detail, and especially not, with regard to the larger and comprehensive concept one may be employed with. Mrs White totally fails in both. Read the following, keeping in mind she talks of “In Joseph’s Tomb” – chapter and section devoted to when “At last Jesus was at rest”.

“Now Jesus rested from the work of redemption; and though there was grief among those who loved Him upon earth, yet there was joy in heaven. Glorious to the eyes of heavenly beings was the promise of the future. A restored creation, a redeemed race that, having conquered sin could never fail— this, the result to flow from Jesus’ completed work, God and angels saw. With the scene the day upon which Jesus rested is forever linked. “For His work is perfect;” and “whatsoever God doeth, it shall be forever.” Deut. 32:4; Eccl. 3:14. When there shall be a “restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began” (Acts 3:21), the creation Sabbath, the day on which Jesus lay at rest in Joseph’s tomb, will still be a day of rest and rejoicing. Heaven and earth will unite in praise, as “from one Sabbath to another” (Isa. 66:23) the nations of the saved shall bow in joyful worship to God and the Lamb.” p 80, §2.

Keep in mind she supposed the whole of the Sabbath Day (and past it, into the First Day of the week, until its sunrise morning). Under our consideration is that Mrs White intended the full hours of the Sabbath that “Jesus was at rest”, “in the tomb”. “Now Jesus rested from the work of redemption; ... — this, the result to flow from Jesus’ completed work, God and angels, saw. With the scene, the day upon which Jesus rested, is forever linked. ... the creation Sabbath, the day on which Jesus lay at rest in Joseph’s tomb, will still be a day of rest and rejoicing. ....” (I had to insert a comma or two.)

Jesus’ ‘rest in the tomb’, according to Mrs White, is of such virtue and consequence that, without it, redemption could not have been; in fact, according to her, Jesus’ ‘rest in the tomb’ completes (or completed) ‘redemption’ and ‘restoration’. Jesus’ ‘rest in the tomb’ meant much more than a doing of nothing. Jesus’ ‘rest in the tomb’ in itself, had tremendous value, virtue and power. “The scene” had such “result” that ‘flowed’ from it, “the day upon which Jesus rested”, i.e., “the day on which Jesus lay at rest in Joseph’s tomb”, the Sabbath, “is forever linked”, with, “the creation Sabbath”.

Now take the same passage and emphasize from yet another angle,
“... this, the result to flow from Jesus’ completed work, God and angels saw. With the scene, the day upon which Jesus rested, is forever linked. “For His work is perfect;” ... the creation Sabbath, the day on which Jesus lay at rest in Joseph’s tomb, will still be a day of rest and rejoicing.”

What does Mrs White herself, do here? She allows herself the principle of association; of connection and relationship. A valid and applicable and indeed an absolutely relevant principle! Mrs White without questioning –‘a priori’– decides on the principle of cause and effect; she brings into effect the principle of merit and ‘result’.

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

Is it not precisely what the Church did when it argued from the resurrection of Jesus for the validity of the Christian Day of Worship-Rest? Why may the Church not have argued, ‘The result to flow from Jesus’ completed work in resurrection, God and angels saw? Why not ‘The day upon which Jesus truly rested, is forever linked with the scene of his resurrection’? Why not, ‘ “For his work is perfect” ... the day on which Jesus went out of Joseph’s tomb, will for the Church of Christ ever be The Day of Rest and Rejoicing’? Why not, if the Seventh Day Adventists may so think of Jesus’ ‘rest in the tomb’? Why may the Church not with regard to Jesus’ resurrection from the dead think of the Christian Day of Worship-Rest, but Mrs White and the Seventh Day Adventists may with regard to Jesus’ ‘rest in the tomb’ think of it?

Karl Barth, when he weighed the authority by which the Church changed the Christian Day of Worship-Rest from the Sabbath to the First Day of the week, asked, “Was it not innovation when the primitive Church (so) decided?” He of course reckoned, No, it was no innovation, because the Church changed its Sabbath Day from the Sabbath to the First Day of the week on her conviction of the worthiness and merit of Jesus’ resurrection from the dead --- ‘on that day’ the First Day of the week! (Assumed.) There was – the Church might have thought –, ‘the result from Jesus’ completed work’ through resurrection from the grave; There was – the Church might have thought –, ‘the scene of the day’, which ‘forever would be linked with’ when ‘Jesus at last rested’ in resurrection from the dead! “For His work is perfected” – the Church might have thought –, ... the Redemption-Sabbath, the Day on which Jesus broke the bonds of Joseph’s grave. “It is the Day the Lord has made” – the Church might have thought –, ‘day of rest and rejoicing’. So the Church must have reasoned, but— mistakenly concerning Sunday! And that’s why Barth did not think it ‘innovation’. But Seventh Day Adventists have always held the idea (or principle), the event makes the day, not the day the event, for authoritarian audacity --- while they themselves of the exact same ‘offence’ have been guilty --- only for far less worthy and glorious a reason, having instead of His resurrection preferred Jesus’ humiliated state in death and grave as that ‘work of redemption’ and ‘restitution of all things’ – ‘Jesus’ completed work’ for the sanctification and remembrance of the Christian Day of Worship. Is not that, the ultimate of audacity?

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

BR:
"The point is that only after He rises on the third day does he do anything like "more work". "

GE
The point is that only AS He rises on the third day does he "finish all the works of God".

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

BR:
"However on Friday He stated "IT IS FINISHED" in fact His work WAS finished on Friday JUST as HE said."

GE
He stated "IT IS FINISHED" on the day He was crucified, not on the day He was buried in the grave. In fact His work was finished on Thursday, as SAID, which was everything you can go read in the Gospels UP TO THAT POINT IN TIME AS WELL AS UP TO THAT POINT IN HIS WORK.

Do not insert your silly words as are they His holy words, like, "However on Friday He stated "IT IS FINISHED" in fact His work WAS finished on Friday JUST as HE said."
Besides, He said no word on Friday, or you must say He said it in his death.

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

Mrs White errs. There were not, three women “about the resting place”. They were not the women “among others” at the crucifixion— Mt27:56! Mrs White – like almost everybody else – is totally blind for verse 27 and the different ‘Marys’!

A. At the Crucifixion—
“There were / present”, “came together”, “stood”— Mk15:40a, Mt27:55a, Lk23:48a, 49c,
“Mary Magdalene and the other Marys”— Mk15:40c, Mt27:56b,
“among”— Mk15:40b, Mt27:56a,
“many (other) women also”— Mt27:55a, Mk15:41b,
“afar off”— Mk15:40a, Mt27:55a, Lk23:49d,
(but the mother of Jesus, “standing by”— Jn19:26)
“looking / beholding”— Mk15:40b, Mt27:55b, Lk23:48b, and
“returned, breast beating”— Lk23:48c.

B. At the Tomb—
“There was sitting over against the sepulchre”— Mt27:61a, c,
“Mary Magdalene and (the other) Mary”— Mk15:47a, Mt27:61b, who “followed after” (Joseph and Nicodemus)— Lk23:55b,
“and beheld”— Mk15:47b, Lk23:55c
“the sepulchre and how his body was laid”— Lk23:55d
“and they returned and prepared spices”— Lk23:56a-b.

C. ‘A’ occurred before “evening had come”— Mt27:57, Mk15:42; ‘B’ occurred after “evening had come”— Mt27:57, Mk15:42,
but only later, was finished, before,
“afternoon tending towards the approaching Sabbath”— Lk23:54.