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Did Obama really win the election?

SolaSaint

Well-Known Member
With all the lies and scandals out of this administration, is it possible the 2102 election is a lie or scandal? With what we are seeing out of the Obama Chicago thugs on his team, I feel it is totally possible they rigged the election somehow. Think about how conservatives out number liberals in America by a very wide margin, so how did he win over conservative votes by promoting extreme liberal platforms? And we know people in Ohio voted more than once. how many other states had cheats running the election? I'm not saying we go back and investigate, but I think it is possible.
 

Aaron

Member
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With Obama bringing in over 100% of vote in several precincts, and the IRS intimidating conservative groups:

How could you say he didn't win?

Of course it's fraud. He's Kenyan-born usurper. That's one thing I really hope that comes out of this. Every order, every bill signed into law would be renedered invalid.
 

SolaSaint

Well-Known Member
With Obama bringing in over 100% of vote in several precincts, and the IRS intimidating conservative groups:

How could you say he didn't win?

Of course it's fraud. He's Kenyan-born usurper. That's one thing I really hope that comes out of this. Every order, every bill signed into law would be renedered invalid.

I guess he did win but by STRONG ARM tactics. I would hope and pray the truth comes out about who he really is, then just watch all the little mice scurry out of sight.
 

Bob Alkire

New Member
I would have to say yes he did win. Like if JFK won with the West Virginia and Illinois in the day, I have to say BHO won as well.
 
With all the lies and scandals out of this administration, is it possible the 2102 election is a lie or scandal? With what we are seeing out of the Obama Chicago thugs on his team, I feel it is totally possible they rigged the election somehow. Think about how conservatives out number liberals in America by a very wide margin, so how did he win over conservative votes by promoting extreme liberal platforms? And we know people in Ohio voted more than once. how many other states had cheats running the election? I'm not saying we go back and investigate, but I think it is possible.

That is because Obama did not run an 'extreme liberal' platform but rather a centrist and conciliatory one and because conservatives only outnumber liberals in America because liberalism has become a four-letter word in this country that has become identified with the likes of Jane Fonda rather than FDR. Quite a lot of self-described moderates and even conservatives take liberal positions on the issues (ask them about balancing spending cuts and tax increases or preserving social security...).

And incidentally there is a far stronger case for the 2000 and 2004 elections being stolen than 2012.
 

Aaron

Member
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I guess he did win but by STRONG ARM tactics. I would hope and pray the truth comes out about who he really is, then just watch all the little mice scurry out of sight.
No, he "won" by fraud and strong arm tactics. There's no way anyone can get a greater number of votes than the registered voters.
 

Aaron

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It's as Lenin said. The voters don't determine the outcome of an election. It's those who count the votes.
 

SolaSaint

Well-Known Member
That is because Obama did not run an 'extreme liberal' platform but rather a centrist and conciliatory one and because conservatives only outnumber liberals in America because liberalism has become a four-letter word in this country that has become identified with the likes of Jane Fonda rather than FDR. Quite a lot of self-described moderates and even conservatives take liberal positions on the issues (ask them about balancing spending cuts and tax increases or preserving social security...).

And incidentally there is a far stronger case for the 2000 and 2004 elections being stolen than 2012.

:laugh::laugh::laugh: you funny
 

Magnetic Poles

New Member
That is because Obama did not run an 'extreme liberal' platform but rather a centrist and conciliatory one and because conservatives only outnumber liberals in America because liberalism has become a four-letter word in this country that has become identified with the likes of Jane Fonda rather than FDR. Quite a lot of self-described moderates and even conservatives take liberal positions on the issues (ask them about balancing spending cuts and tax increases or preserving social security...).

And incidentally there is a far stronger case for the 2000 and 2004 elections being stolen than 2012.

Excellent summation.
 

preachinjesus

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President Obama overwhelmingly won re-election in 2012.

Like it or not, he was a better candidate and won by a substantial margin.
 

saturneptune

New Member
The only election in our lifetime that has a legitimate chance of being won by fraud is the 1960 election, Nixon vs Kennedy in three states, West Virginia, Illinois, and Texas. The popular votes in those states were extremely close and suspicious. That would have been enough electoral votes to give Nixon a victory. Just think, we could have had Watergate eight years earlier.

The 2000 election, although closer in one state, Florida, I believe was a legitimate vote total.
 

saturneptune

New Member
President Obama overwhelmingly won re-election in 2012.

Like it or not, he was a better candidate and won by a substantial margin.

Yes, the Republicans could have won that election with a candidate of a higher caliber than Romney or McCain. The 2016 race is wide open on both sides. There is no strong leader in either party. I cannot see even the Democrats putting up Biden. Time will tell if the Republicans learned the lesson of nominating a centerist-liberal establisment nominee.
 

poncho

Well-Known Member
Hate to tell y'all this but when the global bankers and corporations own both major party candidates it doesn't matter which one "wins" we the people lose.
 

Revmitchell

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Anyone who believes Obama was the better candidate has some serious morality issues to deal with. He won because the IRS was working to kill the Tea Party Voice. He won because conservatives stayed home.

And for no other reason.
 

poncho

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If Obama hadn't won conservatives would be calling people who didn't like the idea of funding and arming Al Qaeda unpatriotic.
 

SolaSaint

Well-Known Member
Anyone who believes Obama was the better candidate has some serious morality issues to deal with. He won because the IRS was working to kill the Tea Party Voice. He won because conservatives stayed home.

And for no other reason.

It is starting to look like the IRS fixed the election doesn't it. I'm sure Saul Alinski would be very proud of him.
 

preacher4truth

Active Member
Those who counted the votes won the election, and of course they were BHO's minions. :thumbs:

I don't see an end to this. No matter what the opps do, those who count the actual votes will undo it.
 
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