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Did the ancient Pagan Religions get picked up as 'tradition'?

Walpole

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Well lets get a more balanced source....
"Martin Luther Questions the Catholic Church
In early 16th-century Europe, some theologians and scholars were beginning to question the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church. It was also around this time that translations of original texts—namely, the Bible and the writings of the early church philosopher Augustine—became more widely available.

Augustine (340–430) had emphasized the primacy of the Bible rather than Church officials as the ultimate religious authority. He also believed that humans could not reach salvation by their own acts, but that only God could bestow salvation by his divine grace. In the Middle Ages the Catholic Church taught that salvation was possible through “good works,” or works of righteousness, that pleased God. Luther came to share Augustine’s two central beliefs, which would later form the basis of Protestantism.

Meanwhile, the Catholic Church’s practice of granting “indulgences” to provide absolution to sinners became increasingly corrupt. Indulgence-selling had been banned in Germany, but the practice continued unabated. In 1517, a friar named Johann Tetzel began to sell indulgences in Germany to raise funds to renovate St. Peter’s Basilica in Rome"....https://www.history.com/topics/reformation/martin-luther-and-the-95-theses


Let's get it from the PRIMARY SOURCE himself...

---> "I, as truly as my Lord Christ redeemed me, did not know what the indulgences were..." Martin Luther, Wider Hans Worst, 1541

Source

(English: LW41:179-256, pages 231-232)

Indulgences and their abuse were simply a convenient catalyst to begin his revolt. One need merely look at his what is glaringly absent in his Disputatio pro declaratione virtutis indulgentiarum, as many of what would become the core tenets of his own religious system were not yet crystallized.
 
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Adonia

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When a man takes on what belongs to God, calls himself 'infallible' and substitutes that which Christ taught with its 'traditions' of evil, then their is a problem.

The problem with that claim is that the One Universal (Catholic) Church and it's Bishop's were given the valid authority to decide things for the faithful of the newly emerging Christian faith. They took nothing from God but only obeyed Him!

Martin Luther, and the other great Protestant reformers,

You mean Martin Luther and the other great renegades! Who are we to believe because as quickly after Luther proclaimed his stuff, other people started to disagree with him and started their own religious sects.

By the way, to which Christian sect are you a follower of?
 

Hobie

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Let's get it from the PRIMARY SOURCE himself...

---> "I, as truly as my Lord Christ redeemed me, did not know what the indulgences were..." Martin Luther, Wider Hans Worst, 1541

Source

(English: LW41:179-256, pages 231-232)

Indulgences and their abuse were simply a convenient catalyst to begin his revolt. One need merely look at his what is glaringly absent in his Disputatio pro declaratione virtutis indulgentiarum, as many of what would become the core tenets of his own religious system were not yet crystallized.
I don't think it took long to figure out especially when you challenge it for debate...


The Indulgences Controversy

Indulgences and salvation

In the fall of 1517 an ostensibly innocuous event quickly made Luther’s name a household word in Germany. Irritated by Johann Tetzel, a Dominican friar who was reported to have preached to the faithful that the purchase of a letter of indulgence entailed the forgiveness of sins, Luther drafted a set of propositions for the purpose of conducting an academic debate on indulgences at the university in Wittenberg. He dispatched a copy of the Ninety-five Theses to Tetzel’s superior, Archbishop Albert of Mainz, along with a request that Albert put a stop to Tetzel’s extravagant preaching; he also sent copies to a number of friends. Before long, Albert formally requested that official proceedings be commenced in Rome to ascertain the work’s orthodoxy"...https://www.britannica.com/biography/Martin-Luther/The-indulgences-controversy
 

Walpole

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I don't think it took long to figure out especially when you challenge it for debate...


The Indulgences Controversy

Indulgences and salvation

In the fall of 1517 an ostensibly innocuous event quickly made Luther’s name a household word in Germany. Irritated by Johann Tetzel, a Dominican friar who was reported to have preached to the faithful that the purchase of a letter of indulgence entailed the forgiveness of sins, Luther drafted a set of propositions for the purpose of conducting an academic debate on indulgences at the university in Wittenberg. He dispatched a copy of the Ninety-five Theses to Tetzel’s superior, Archbishop Albert of Mainz, along with a request that Albert put a stop to Tetzel’s extravagant preaching; he also sent copies to a number of friends. Before long, Albert formally requested that official proceedings be commenced in Rome to ascertain the work’s orthodoxy"...https://www.britannica.com/biography/Martin-Luther/The-indulgences-controversy

You have the words of Luther himself! He admitted he had no idea what an indulgence was. They were but a convenient catalyst to begin his revolt.

History = Protestant kryptonite
 

Hobie

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You have the words of Luther himself! He admitted he had no idea what an indulgence was. They were but a convenient catalyst to begin his revolt.

History = Protestant kryptonite
When most people heard of 'coronavirus' they had no idea what it was either, but they learned quickly.
 
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