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Hello Icon,

By forcing eternal consequences into the text where it is not intended you are doing violence to the word of God.

 

Lol, I can't help myself, but where did it mention eternal consequences THOUGH? :wavey:

 

Is it possible for God's redeemed born from above children to 'die in their sins'?

4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come forth, my people, out of her, that ye have no fellowship with her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues:
5 for her sins have reached even unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities. Rev 18

And with many other words he testified, and exhorted them, saying, Save yourselves from this crooked generation. Acts 2:40

Yes it is, and I've no doubt there were many that did.

 

I responded: "There’s no doubt that these you are describing perished eternally."

Still doesn't mean 'die in your sins' in the text means 'go to hell'. He's telling them on a corporate level unless they repent they're going to perish in the wrath to come upon that generation.

 

1 Now there were some present at that very season who told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices.
3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all in like manner perish.

What do you imagine Pilate did there Icon? You know he didn't 'mingle their blood' himself , he sent soldiers to do the deed. 'In like manner' they were all to die if they did not repent.

4 Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and killed them, think ye that they were offenders above all the men that dwell in Jerusalem?
5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

Josephus actually records this event that happened in the 'berg' of Siloam. Roman soldiers, again by Pilate's orders, disguised themselves and mingled with the crowd and fell upon them with clubs and beat them to death to quell an uprising of the Galileans over Pilate misappropriating temple funds to extend an aqueduct from the spring at Siloam. They were all to 'likewise' perish if they did not repent.

 

28 But Jesus turning unto them said, Daughters of Jerusalem, weep not for me, but weep for yourselves, and for your children.
29 For behold, the days are coming, in which they shall say, Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the breasts that never gave suck.
30 Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall on us; and to the hills, Cover us.
31 For if they do these things in the green tree, what shall be done in the dry? Lu 23

Even on His way to the cross The Prophet was warning of the wrath soon to come upon them. He was diligent in His duty to the very end.

 

OK, what's your point with that? Why was He telling the 'daughters of Jerusalem' these things?

 

So you say. You're reading something into the text that simply is not there. That's what you want it to mean.

I'm really glad it won't be an LSer or a Puritan making the calls concerning eternity. Reminds me of the Queen of Hearts in wonderland, off with their heads!

Good night.