You'll have to find and show who finds Setterfield credible. Listen I'm all for people doing the work, and showing their work. Part of peer-review is doing this. However, modern science is built on this rigorous review process. You just can't put out random theories that aren't fact checked. You can call scientist bigotted people, but at least they've got a process. Show how that process is flawed (which it is to a degree) and you can find a foothold for an argument. However, you are attempting to making arguments about a position without reasonable argumentation behind it.
Whether you say no one finds Setterfield credible is irrelevant. You obviously have closed your mind as for as he is concerned. Furthermore, it is not true to say that modern science is built on a rigorous review process. The pressure to publish [or perish] is so great that the peer review process is sometimes flawed. Of course peer review may or may not be valid since I said earlier that scientists are often the most biased of people. A prime example of this is the man
Immanuel Velikovsky. His views on the catastrophic history were widely ridiculed by those who held the uniformitarian theory of time and events. A catastrophic history of the earth is now commonly [not universally] accepted. The following comments are extracted from:
http://www.bio-plasmics.org/velikovsky/velikovsky.htm
"One of the most controversial scientists of our times."
Immanuel Velikovsky in his 1950's book
Worlds in Collision proposes that many myths and traditions of ancient peoples and cultures are based on actual events: worldwide global catastrophes of a celestial origin, which had a profound effect on the lives, beliefs and writings of early mankind.
"Worlds in Collision is a book of wars in the celestial sphere that took place in historical times. In these wars the planet earth participated too. [...] The historical-cosmological story of this book is based in the evidence of historical texts of many people around the globe, on classical literature, on epics of the northern races, on sacred books of the peoples of the Orient and Occident, on traditions and folklore of primitive peoples, on old astronomical inscriptions and charts, on archaeological finds, and also on geological and paleontological material." -
Worlds In Collision, Preface.
After reaching the number 1 spot in the best-sellers list, Velikovsky's Worlds in Collision was banned from a number of academic institutions, and creating an unprecedented scientific debacle that became known as The Velikovsky Affair.
In 1956 Velikovsky wrote
Earth in Upheaval to present conclusive geological evidence of terrestrial catastrophism.
"I have excluded from [these pages] all references to ancient literature, traditions, and folklore; and this I have done with intent, so that careless critics cannot decry the entire work as "tales and legends". Stones and bones are the only witness." -
Earth in Upheaval, Preface.
Many scientists and historians have criticised Velikovsky's works over the years, unfortunately, many have done so inaccurately resulting in the public's misconception that Velikovsky was "completely proved wrong".
Books by Velikovsky:
• Worlds in Collision (1950)
• Ages in Chaos (1952)
• Earth In Upheaval (1956)
• Oedipus and Akhnaton (1960)
• Peoples of the Sea (1977)
• Ramses II and His Times (1978)
• Mankind in Amnesia (1982)
• Stargazers and Gravediggers (1983).
Reviews and criticisms of Velikovsky's work have tended to be inaccurate, inconclusive or just plainly wrong. Velikovsky did make mistakes,
but his key proposal, that in historical times mankind witnessed global catastrophes of cosmic origin, endures with increasing numbers of organisations and people investigating his wor
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A second case where the bias of scientists is demonstrated is from:
http://people.ku.edu/~jbrown/ulcer.html
For many, many years, ulcers within the stomach were thought to be caused entirely by emotional stress - stress related to work, family problems, or just about anything that causes such emotional reactions. In 1982, this restricted view of the cause of stomach ulcers began to change. A physician in Australia, Barry Marshall, didn't entirely buy the stress argument. Biopsies (little bits of tissue) were obtained from the mucosal stomach lining of patients suffering from chronic gastritis and the more severe condition, peptic ulcer disease.
There are credible theologians who believe in an old earth. For instance:
Alister McGrath (2 DPhils from Oxford)
Hugh Ross
CS Lewis
Norman Geisler
Willaim Lane Craig
Alvin Plantinga
Francis Schaeffer
I can go on and on and on...suffice to say you're swiming upstream with your position and the currents are too strong.
I never go with the flow PJ. That is the broad path spoken of in Scripture!!!
Sometimes the more education a person gets the more divorced from reality they become. For evidence just look at the higher education system in this country. I have a nephew who just got his PhD in a state university. Of the 12 teachers in his department only one other than himself was conservative. He may have been the only Christian in the group. I never asked.
