Disagreements on God.

[Yeshua1]

So the other 17 times that Greek phrase is use are also a statement of equality within the Godhead?

No.

Do you deny God is Jehovah? Yes or No?

he is Yahweh!

 

[Yeshua1]

My theology is Biblical. I affirm that the three distinct Persons, God the Father, the Son of God and the Holy Spirit are the one and the Same LORD God aka Jehovah, Yahweh.
I also affirm the Son of God is now and forever an immortal man, Hebrews 13:8. Who is as a man is also distinct for God His Father, 1 Corinthians 15:28.

Is Jesus eternally God?

 

[Yeshua1]

The Word aka the Son of God is the Father's sole agent of creation, John 1:2-3. And on the cross the Son ran the univese, Hebrews 1:3 being the true light John 1:9-10 even as His Father is the true God, John 17:3. They are one, John 10:28-30, John 14:6.

Is Jesus almighty God. the same God as the Father?

 

[Yeshua1]

The Son is also aways God, true. But, no, not in every sense:
John 20:16, ". . . Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. . . ."

Jesus is Jehovah!

 

[Yeshua1]

Good. Jesus calls His Father the "true God." John 17:3. So unless the Son and the Holy Spirit are true God too . . . .
So are the Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ and the Spirit Himself one and same Spirit being God or three distinct Spirits who are God? (Romans 8:9, Romans 8:16, John 4:24, John 17:3) Are believers indwelt by one or three Spirits (1 John 5:12, John 17:3)?

Jesus and the Holy Spirit are true God!

 

[Yeshua1]

So are you arguing that Jesus Christ is His Father? Or is He the agent of His Father? John 5:19.

He is Yahweh, just the same as the Father and Holy Spirit also are!

 

[Yeshua1]

Subordination heresy!

Jesus only was in that position while here upon the Earth during His Incarnation!

 

[Yeshua1]

so in your theology Jesus Christ is not Almighty God, but a demi-god?

JW , Mormon, or Sda?

 

[Yeshua1]

so Jesus Christ is a secondary god? we might as well accept the JW's translation of John 1:1, "and the Logos was a god"!

Or the Sda, of Jesus being a mighty god, but not almighty God!

 

[SavedByGrace]

Or the Sda, of Jesus being a mighty god, but not almighty God!

I thought that the SDA believe in the Trinity?

 

[Yeshua1]

I thought that the SDA believe in the Trinity?

Very confusing, as Ellen White and many Sda early leaders help to Arian theology, as Jesus being Michael, and now they seem to hold more to there being 3 gods, and one in action, more like Mormons!

 

[SavedByGrace]

Very confusing, as Ellen White and many Sda early leaders help to Arian theology, as Jesus being Michael, and now they seem to hold more to there being 3 gods, and one in action, more like Mormons!

it is a Trinity of Subordination, What Seventh-Day Adventists Believe about Trinity? - Ask an Adventist Friend.

 

[1689Dave]

The Person Jesus Christ is not the Trinity. What Biblical bases do you have for the notion "The Son is always God begotten of the Father?"

“I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord (Jesus), having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.” Jude 5 (KJV 1900)

“Now I want to remind you, although you once fully knew it, that Jesus, who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.” Jude 5 (ESV)

 

[SavedByGrace]

“I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord (Jesus), having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.” Jude 5 (KJV 1900)

“Now I want to remind you, although you once fully knew it, that Jesus, who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.” Jude 5 (ESV)

Indeed showing that One of the Persons in the Old Testament called Yahweh is Jesus Christ. Not that Jesus is the Father

 

[Yeshua1]

it is a Trinity of Subordination, What Seventh-Day Adventists Believe about Trinity? - Ask an Adventist Friend.

Some though see it as 3 gods who are united as one in purpose!

 

[37818]

Jesus is NOT the Holy Spirit!

So do you believe Christians have three Spirits from God? Romans 8:9, 1John 5:12, 2 Corinthians 13:5, Romans 8:16, etc.

 

[Dave G]

so, if you understand what YHWH means, which is in the Hebrew from the root, I AM, The Eternal, Self-Sufficient, Self-Existing, and Unchanging God, then you should know that The Three Persons in the Eternal Godhead, are COETERNAL, COESSENTIAL and COEQUAL. No Person is better, higher, greater, more important, more powerful, etc, etc, than the other Person. The Three are 100% God.

I agree.

 

[Yeshua1]

So do you believe Christians have three Spirits from God? Romans 8:9, 1John 5:12, 2 Corinthians 13:5, Romans 8:16, etc.

We are sealed and indwelt by the Holy Spirit!