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Discerning the Kingdom of Light vs the Kingdom of Darkness

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Inspector Javert

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No, I actually spent more time on the prophecy thread than this one. And after this I will be going back there.
OK. Good for you.
So do I. Do you have an obsession with correcting others?

Rarely....
I'm rarely in a position to correct others inasmuch as I'm unqualified to do so most of the time...
But an ambulance-chasing....devil-exorcist???

Yeah...you're easy to correct.
You see you are wasting my time and the time of the other readers on a useless point you are trying to make.
You don't understand the points I'm trying to make.
I am here to expose the works of the devil.
Me too....
And you're it.
When I am finished I will move on to other subjects, just like I always do.
You'll never be finished with it...you love speaking of devils and demons to much.
The subject fascinates you.
You are excited by talk of demonic forces.
You can't get enough of it.

You are dangerous.
Oh, you've got me all figured out.

No, you are probably vastly more complicated than this issue...
But as far as your passion for demons is concerned:
You are just another Rebecca Brown M.D.....
An obsessed demon fetishist.
That...I've seen many times.
All 32 yrs of seeing God's power and blessing don't count with you
No they don't.
Because I don't think you understand what you've seen.
I don't think you know the difference between Satan's lies and God's delivering power.
nor do the lives of those we've touched in such a wonderful way.
Correct.
Your testimony of touching so many lives means nothing to me.
I think you have no idea what you are talking about.

You have a fetish for the demonic,
just like Rebecca Brown.

Your 32 years in that snare does not impress me.
Gee, I wonder why?:applause: Could it be that I have actually, personally, and in reality encountered those same devils...by those same designations? Gasp! I seem to recall that I did....scores of times.
I have absolutely no doubt, none whatsoever, that you have had numerous regular and sundry encounters with devils.

I don't doubt that at all.

I've tried to warn you about your unmerited fascination with devils, but alas, it is to no avail.

You LOVE and honor your time with devils too much.
Is spiritual warfare and deliverance off limit on this board? Yes/no.
Not at all.
Spiritual Warfare is very real...
I'm just telling you that you are losing the battle, because you don't know how to fight it:
My guess is you are a Son of Sceva:

Act 19:12
So that from his body were brought unto the sick handkerchiefs or aprons, and the diseases departed from them, and the evil spirits went out of them.
Act 19:13
Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth.
Act 19:14
And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, and chief of the priests, which did so.
Act 19:15
And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?
Act 19:16
And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded.
Is spiritual warfare and deliverance in the Bible? Yes/no.
Yes, and you are being used by the enemy against your own side.
I rest my case.
OK.
 

Calypsis4

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Mr. Inspector:

Like I suggested: you, sir are obssessed with correcting others. Especially pastors like me....

never mind the fact that the Bible says, ¶ Rebuke not an elder, but intreat him as a father; and the younger men as brethren.

You've done the exact opposite.

Bye. We're done here.:thumbsup:
 

Calypsis4

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And with this little comment, the Skeptical Flag is raised.

Hmm, yes, we need to be skeptical about one who uselessly criticizes someone who is only trying to be a help to others. Thank the Lord there have been a few here.:)
 
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Rolfe

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Hmm, yes, we need to be skeptical about one who uselessly criticizes someone who is only trying to be a help to others. Thank the Lord there have been a few here.:)

No, I question your authenticity because you played the "Pastor Card".
 

Iconoclast

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Calypsis4;


They were both heavily demonized and as I counseled with them together and we dealt with the spirits and mentioned the Tolkien stuff...(among other things I mentioned above) the oddest thing happened: the skin on their faces and arms began to be supernaturally stretched towards each other as if they had just become human magnets
.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
 

Iconoclast

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Inspector Javert;



You'll never be finished with it...you love speaking of devils and demons to much.
The subject fascinates you.
You are excited by talk of demonic forces.
You can't get enough of it.

You are dangerous.

:laugh:

No, you are probably vastly more complicated than this issue...
But as far as your passion for demons is concerned:
You are just another Rebecca Brown M.D.....
An obsessed demon fetishist.

:laugh:

I think you have no idea what you are talking about.

You have a fetish for the demonic,

:laugh:

I have absolutely no doubt, none whatsoever, that you have had numerous regular and sundry encounters with devils.

I don't doubt that at all.

I've tried to warn you about your unmerited fascination with devils, but alas, it is to no avail.

You LOVE and honor your time with devils too much.

Not at all.
Spiritual Warfare is very real...
I'm just telling you that you are losing the battle, because you don't know how to fight it:
My guess is you are a Son of Sceva:

:laugh:
 

Iconoclast

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Calypsis4; [QUOTE said:
I regret not recording it but they were pulled together as if the law of gravity had changed and was now horizontal in nature rather than vertical. This happened several times until the devils of mysticism were cast out. I was to find out later that they had shared evil spirits and they were coming out of them at the same time...

:laugh::eek::rolleyes::laugh:
 

Iconoclast

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I'm glad someone else finds his absurdities as funny as I do!

:laugh::laugh:the skin on their faces and arms began to be supernaturally stretched towards each other as if they had just become human magnets

:laugh::laugh:this is rich! GOOD THING HE IS HELPING US
 

sag38

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Someone has been taking Daniel Peretti's fiction series, Piercing the Darkness a little to seriously and also needs to toss out the Neil Anderson books.
 

matt wade

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:laugh::laugh:the skin on their faces and arms began to be supernaturally stretched towards each other as if they had just become human magnets

:laugh::laugh:this is rich! GOOD THING HE IS HELPING US

This guy is straight up living in an exorcist movie!

"A few years later I was sitting in the living room with my family here at home and suddenly my youngest (13 yr old) daughter started acting strangely. Soon she was making faces at me and that was disturbing, but not nearly as disturbing as it was when her face transformed before me: her bottom lip went clear down to her chin and her upper lip was touching her nose and I could see every tooth in her head. She started mocking me and when I demanded to know what spirit had control of her the evil spirit spoke through her and said, "Neverending Story...does that tell you anything?" That night I had to cast a number of devils out of my girls life. I was surprised by the number of them but each of them was related to one of the characters in that movie. I was stunned when one of the devils shouted at me, "We've been in her a long time, preacher, and you didn't even know it!""
 

Iconoclast

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This guy is straight up living in an exorcist movie!

"A few years later I was sitting in the living room with my family here at home and suddenly my youngest (13 yr old) daughter started acting strangely. Soon she was making faces at me and that was disturbing, but not nearly as disturbing as it was when her face transformed before me: her bottom lip went clear down to her chin and her upper lip was touching her nose and I could see every tooth in her head. She started mocking me and when I demanded to know what spirit had control of her the evil spirit spoke through her and said, "Neverending Story...does that tell you anything?"

Hey Matt...don't you just hate when that happens:laugh:

That night I had to cast a number of devils out of my girls life.

:rolleyes:



I was surprised by the number of them but each of them was related to one of the characters in that movie.

:laugh:


I was stunned when one of the devils shouted at me, "We've been in her a long time, preacher, and you didn't even know it
!""

:laugh:
 

Calypsis4

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Someone has been taking Daniel Peretti's fiction series, Piercing the Darkness a little to seriously and also needs to toss out the Neil Anderson books.

Yet another useless comment by yet another poster who is trying to derail the topic of this thread. The subject here is not Calypsis4's obsession; the subject is discerning the Kingdom of Light from the Kingdom of Darkness and I am only willing to discuss such things with those who are truly curious about such matters. The rest will be ignored.

P.S. Who pray tell is 'Daniel Peretti'? I have never read Neil Anderson.


Proverbs 18:13 ¶ He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.

Now, moving on...
 

Darrell C

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Yet another useless comment by yet another poster who is trying to derail the topic of this thread. The subject here is not Calypsis4's obsession; the subject is discerning the Kingdom of Light from the Kingdom of Darkness and I am only willing to discuss such things with those who are truly curious about such matters. The rest will be ignored.

P.S. Who pray tell is 'Daniel Peretti'? I have never read Neil Anderson.


Proverbs 18:13 ¶ He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.

Now, moving on...

Peretti is a charismatic author of numerous books where demons are caricaturized. I read some of his work when I first got saved, because I was an avid reader and tried to stick with books by Christian authors. Some of it is kind of hokey, though he has a few that are more serious.

Personally I don't get too involved in researching the demonic. I prefer to go on the offensive against them through a doctrinal path, as I believe they (demons) are precisely our enemies when dealing with false doctrine. While demons are a reality ridiculed by many today, I have a pretty simple "formula" for dealing with every issue: focus on the genuine. Demonology is an important subject, but we have to concentrate on what is genuine before addressing what is not, the case here being holy as opposed to unholy. So I focus mainly on Christology and Soteriology and most subjects fall under these, even demons.

I did watch that movie about the cop in New York, I think it was. It interests me when things like that are supposed to be based on real events. I have no doubts that there are those that interact with demons as it was presented in the movie. The trend today is to dismiss everything as not being supernatural, but there are those that have seen things most will not, and even if they did, would not discern what they were witnessing due to unbelief.


God bless.
 
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Calypsis4

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Concerning J.R.R. Tolkien who wrote 'The Lord of the Rings' he was a member of a small coffee shop group called The Inklings. They met regularly at the Eagle & the Child and spent countless hours discussing literature and philosophy from the early 1930' to late 1949.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e8/Birdandbaby.jpg/220px-Birdandbaby.jpg

The group included Tolkien, C.S. Lewis, Owen Barfield, and Charles Williams. Tolkein (a mystic Catholic) was friends with Lewis (a protestant) and they influenced each other in their ideas about life, good vs evil, and theology. It was from this gathering at the Eagle and the Child that the ideas for such classic fiction/fantasy novels like The Lord of the Rings & The Chronicles of Narnia were born. The problem is that there was an unnoticed evil influence in the group and that influence profoundly affected them as is seen in how the writers mixed good with evil (i.e. the use of magic to battle evil and the use of demonic characters who were looked upon as good).



The evil influence in the group found its source in Charles Williams, a man whom C.S. Lewis adored. What they did not know through all those years was the fact that Williams was a member of the Rosicrucians, a mystical group that practiced astral projection. He was also a member of the Golden Dawn, the same group that Aliester Crowley ('the great beast 666' as he called himself) was a member of. Williams was involved in black magic and he had a
profound influence on Lewis in particular.

Excerpts from*The Inklings: C.S. Lewis, J.R.R. Tolkien, Charles Williams and their friends*by
Humphrey Carpenter


*(Boston: Houghton Mifflin Co., 1979), pages 80-84.

"...a fundamental element in Charles Williams’s character, the thing that he was trying to express when he told a friend: ‘At bottom a darkness has always haunted me.’ What was this darkness? ...
"...by the time he was in his late twenties he was making some study of the beliefs and practices of that semi-magical branch of Christianity known as*Rosicrucianism.*[An occult system using a blend of Egyptian and Christian symbols]*During this period he read books by the Rosicrucian writer A. E. Waite; he entered into correspondence with Waite, and at Waite’s invitation was initiated (in 1917) into an organization called the*Order of the Golden Dawn....
"Among its first initiates was a coroner who allegedly performed*necromantic*rites... while another early member was*black magician Aleister Crowley, the self styled Great Beast.... But the*Order of the Golden Dawnalso included persons of less outlandish ways, such as*W. B. Yeats, whom Williams met during the period of his membership, one or two clergy with a taste for the mystical, and A. E. Waite himself....* It was this group that Williams joined.
"As a neophyte aspiring to be initiated into the Golden Dawn he would apparently have had to declare: ‘My soul... seeking for the Light of Occult Knowledge...*[I chose not to include this oath].’ He also had to take an oath to keep the rites secret, on penalty of a ‘hostile current’ which would be set against him if he broke faith.... Probably they were harmless enough*[they were*not harmless], based as they seem to have been on*Waite’s enthusiasms for freemasonry, vaguely Christian mysticism, and*Rosicrucianism, a system of occult beliefs which combines the symbolism of Christianity with the terminology of*alchemy...."*[This is a demonic counterfeit of Christianity, yet it seems to be influencing the church through the popularity of mysticism, spiritual experience, and postmodern disinterest in God's unchanging Word]
"Waite’s own explanation of Rosicrucianism comes as near to lucidity as does any account of this opaque subject: ‘The Cross is the sign or symbol... of the*Brotherhood*in its inward dedication, of pure*mystical wisdom. Its red colour represents the mystical and divine blood of Christ.... There is placed in its centre a Rose 'of the colour of Blood' to indicate the work of Sacred and Divine*Alchemy...’"*(A. E. Waite, The Brotherhood of the Rosy Cross (William Rider,1924), pp. 107—8.)...
"Certainly membership of the Golden Dawn involved the performance of rituals, which*Williams, with his love of rite and ceremony, entered into wholeheartedly...* he had always taken care to*learn by heart the wordsof any Golden Dawn rite.... There does not seem to have been anything in Waite’s ‘temple’ of the Golden Dawn which was opposed to Christianity.*[Everything there opposed Christianity!]**Indeed Waite, who had been brought up a Catholic, believed its practices to be part of what he called the ‘Secret Tradition’ of Christianity, the tradition that besides the overt meaning of Christian doctrine there is also a hidden series of truths revealed only to an elect few. Waite remarked of this*gnostic tradition, and apparently of his ‘temple’... ‘It is not in competition with the external Christian Churches....'* Waite also made a special study of talismans and of the*Tarot cards.... These and other*details of occult knowledge*were to play a major part in Williams’s novels."

http://www.crossroad.to/heaven/Excerpts/books/lewis/inklings-williams.htm

This explains why there is so much confusion in the biblical Christian world as it concerns the boundaries of good vs evil...or even WHAT is actually good vs evil. Lewis portrayed certain characters as 'good' like the Pan character, Mr. Tumnus. Pan, the satyr, however is a symbol of Satan and satyrs are condemned in the Bible.

Isaiah 13:21 But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there; and their houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there, and satyrs shall dance there

https://bittenbythelitbug.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/mr-tumnus1.jpg

Hmm, why would God condemn something that doesn't exist? But there are millions of Christians who deny that such creatures exist.

By the way, this is direct scriptural proof that devils can become physical. Pan devils were known to show up at the ancient Greek bachanalia that always featured an orge with music, dancing, and physical unions between the pan devils and humans.

Such things still happen even in our day. Example: The yearly Ballo del Doge in Venice, Italy at the beginning of spring. It is the Italian Mardi Gra and devils combine with humans to tempt them, deceive them, and mate with them.

View this if you think you can stomach it, but be warned it is awful. From the Ballo del Doge 2010 banquet entitled Seven Dreams, Seven Sins:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INY0bQ4ozo0


Some of the participants in that recording were actual devils.
 
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