Dishonorable Discharge

[Reformed1689]

Yes, that is my argument (over the science behind the mRNA vaccines). Sorry if I was not clear.

I can only go with what you actually say Jon.

 

[JonC]

I can only go with what you actually say Jon.

I mean what I said. But apparently I was not clear enough for you.

Members need to reach out to other members before making accusations. Often arguments are nothing but misunderstandings.

I think this is why the last generation (my father's generation) spoke of being men by talking one on one rather than what they would call gossip.

And perhaps that mentality was more Biblical. God tells us when we have a dispute go to that person first.

That would perhaps settle many arguments on this forum. It is Biblical and cuts down in the gossip.

 

[JonC]

Saying I don't believe science is a personal attack. Have some integrity about what you did or did not say.

No. It is not an attack at all. Context matters, brother.

I was saying you did not believe in the science behind the two mRNA vaccines used in the US - specifically that the science has shown mRNA vaccines are safer than vaccines using actual viruses, that spiked protein itself is not dangerous, and that the vaccine meets safety standard as shown in the trial data.

And this was based on my understanding of your position as expressed in your posts. I could be wrong, but it would be a misunderstanding on my part and you should have considered that before making accusations.

 

[Revmitchell]

Uh.....no.....not a personal attack at all.

Apparently I misunderstood @Reformed1689 to believe that the vaccine was rushed and a suitable trial of the vaccibe was not conducted. I may have been thinking of someone else.

But that is in no way, shape or form a personal attack.

Your post, however, probably dies constitute a personal attack. But we all expect that, so don't worry about it.

really what happened to that post and to the one I quoted ?

 

[Revmitchell]

For the record....I also believe the earth is round and we landed on the moon.

This is the personal attack I was speaking of. You use it quite often.

 

[JonC]

really what happened to that post and to the one I quoted ?

Who knows. I've been building outdoor chairs. Took a muscle relaxer, and am not inclined to look.

Report a post and ask an administrator.

 

[JonC]

This is the personal attack I was speaking of. You use it quite often.

If you are offended by my personal beliefs then that is your problem. They are my beliefs- not personal attacks. I was not speaking of anyone but me.

This is the problem many seem to have on this board. They are hurt by other people's beliefs and think they are "attacks".

People are too sensitive these days. They can't handle the fact that views other than their own exist and won't stop until they silence opposing views.

Some do this by calling other people's beliefs "attacks". Others are just trolls who give childish ratings.

 

[Revmitchell]

If you are offended by my personal beliefs then that is your problem. They are my beliefs- not personal attacks. I was not speaking of anyone but me.

This is the problem many seem to have on this board. They are hurt by other people's beliefs and think they are "attacks".

People are too sensitive these days. They can't handle the fact that views other than their own exist and won't stop until they silence opposing views.

do you read the words you post?

 

[SGO]

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[JonC]

do you read the words you post?

Yes. I posted that I believe the CDC, the FDA, the AMA, my friends who are physicians and my personal doctors and those are the sources I choose. I said that I also believe the earth is round (many don't) and that we landed on the moon (at least one here doesn't).

You said my beliefs were "a personal attack".

Then I replied that stating my beliefs is mot attacking anybody. You may find my beliefs offensive, but that is on you (it is not relevant to me). You are too thin skinned if you believe me holding beliefs you may reject are somehow attacks.

 

[JonC]

Edit, dit, dit, dit, sha-na-na sounds in the distance cry...

This makes no sense. Troll alert !!!! Trrrrooooolllll!

 

[Reformed1689]

I said that I also believe the earth is round (many don't) and that we landed on the moon (at least one here doesn't).

Exactly, it's called being passive aggressive

 

[Reformed1689]

I mean what I said. But apparently I was not clear enough for you.

Members need to reach out to other members before making accusations. Often arguments are nothing but misunderstandings.

I think this is why the last generation (my father's generation) spoke of being men by talking one on one rather than what they would call gossip.

And perhaps that mentality was more Biblical. God tells us when we have a dispute go to that person first.

That would perhaps settle many arguments on this forum. It is Biblical and cuts down in the gossip.

What I did was NOT gossip.

 

[Revmitchell]

What I did was NOT gossip.

dont bother

 

[JonC]

Exactly, it's called being passive aggressive

No. It is called saying what I believe. Why do I believe we landed on the moon? Was it because non-government affiliated people said we landed on the moon? No. It is because government of government agencies (NASA videos). What about a round earth? We are taught this in school (schools also teach evolution). It was because of a NOAA video when I was in school.

Why do I believe the science behind the vacvine, its effectiveness? Same reasons - the CDC, the FDA, and the AMA.

I was defending (more explaining) my choices when it comes to sources I believe reliable.

You have insulted me, made accusations s against me, and "attacked" me. I suspect you may be trolling me, but I am not willing to go that far.

Why? Because I dare to say what I believe.

What sources do you believe reliable?

 

[Reformed1689]

You have insulted me, made accusations s against me, and "attacked" me. I suspect you may be trolling me, but I am not willing to go that far.

I don't troll. You started this, not me.

 

[JonC]

What I did was NOT gossip.

Yes, it was gossip by definition.

I state my beliefs- you call it passive aggressiveness.

I say that you reject the science behind the mRNA vaccinations, their development, and their effectiveness. You say I am lying.

That is gossip. And it happens too much on this board.

People need to get with others and clarify things before making accusations. Thus would prevent many false accusations and hopefully prevent gossip.

 

[Reformed1689]

Yes, it was gossip by definition.

I state my beliefs- you call it passive aggressiveness.

I say that you reject the science behind the mRNA vaccinations, their development, and their effectiveness. You say I am lying.

That is gossip. And it happens too much on this board.

People need to get with others and clarify things before making accusations. Thus would prevent many false accusations and hopefully prevent gossip.

Yeah sorry, not gossip.

 

[Revmitchell]

Notice how the left wing talking points show up in these threads ie misinformation, disinformation, believe the science etc.

the science once said that blood letting and DDT were good for resolving health issues.

they are all buzz words and phrases used to bully people. As is calling board members evil, implying that they believe the earth is flat if they don’t “ believe the science.”

Accusing board members of calling them a liar when the word was never used. Talk about being sensitive. .

 

[JonC]

I don't troll. You started this, not me.

No. You quoted my response to @Reynolds. I replied to you because I thought you were an honest person, a Christian, and I had respect for your opinions based on previous interactions.

I thought you were interested in conversation about the topic. When you started making assumptions and false accusations I suspected you could be trolling me. I thought maybe that was why you chose to engage me.

But I gave you the benefit of the doubt.