Diversity of Opinion

"Ye shall know them by their fruits........"(Matthew 7:16)

I'm convinced that not all traditional artist are of God or all CCM artist are of God.

A couple of years ago my wife and I went to a Gaither concert. I was really disturbed at what did or didn't happen. First no prayer was spoken to start the show. No mention of God or Jesus except within the lyrical content of the songs. No testimony by the artist between songs or at intermission. Every chance Bill Gaither got he was trying to sell something. It was obvious to me that he was in it for the money. On the contrary, I've recently purchased the new Casting Crowns Lifesong DVD. Before each show the band has a small worship service to pray about the concert. Then the band members disperse out into various sections of the arena/auditorium and pray over the seats. In between some songs Mark Hall(lead vocalist) leads prayer. It is obvious to me that Casting Crowns are in it to serve God.

For me personally in all music regardless of genre. I must be able to understand the lyrics and the lyrics must be in line with the Word of God. :Fish:

 

jch-singer said:

I hate to be a bubble buster but CCM fans need to read this.
http://www.av1611.org/question/cqdeceit.html

What an odd page.

That quotation from Hitler that doesn't seem to have much to do with anything is especially surreal.

 

I'm sorry, I've seen that website before. I still don't see what it has to do with CCM. Not everyone likes the same food, or the same movies, or the same clothing,etc. etc. etc. My God is too big to be defined by any one style of music. I honestly believe the reason we have so many empty churches today is because of this type of condemnation. We judge others because they aren't like we are. They don't dress like I do. They don't listen to the same style of music I do.
Again "Ye shall know them by their fruits......." Do they profess to love God? Are they loving toward one another? Do they live a Christian life? I know many so called Christan people who dress nice, listen to traditional gospel, have the appearance of a Christan, but are without love.
Don't get me wrong, I don't like anything that contradicts the word of God. But it must contradict the word of God before I'll condemn it. And I have yet to read anything in the Bible that says CCM is wrong. On the contrary Psalms 150 says:

1 Praise ye the LORD.
Praise God in his sanctuary:
praise him in the firmament of his power.

2 Praise him for his mighty acts:
praise him according to his excellent greatness.

3 Praise him with the sound of the trumpet:
praise him with the psaltery and harp.

4 Praise him with the timbrel and dance:
praise him with stringed instruments and organs.

5 Praise him upon the loud cymbals:
praise him upon the high sounding cymbals.

6 Let every thing that hath breath praise the LORD.

Some of these instruments are currently used in todays CCM music as well as traditional gospel.
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For the record, I'm opposed to CCM people "prancing about." The traditionalist crowd shouldn't prance either... :smilewinkgrin:

 

4 Praise him with the timbrel and dance:
praise him with stringed instruments and organs.

By prancing about, you don't mean dancing do you?
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:thumbs::applause:raise: Could not say it better myself

(Needed to limit images, sorry - no more the 4 LOL

 

duplicate

 

I can see that on this subject nobody likes me. LOL:laugh: :laugh:

 

Just because someone has a differenc of opinion does not mean we do not like you

If we all agreed we would not be on the BB posting :laugh:

 

It's not that I don't like you, it's just that it's very irritating when I ask you a question, trying to hold a conversation with you, and you ignore the questions, especially after I've tried so hard to answer yours.

 

I'll try to answer all your questions as simple as I can, Mike do you only believe only what you can understand? I read of a bush in the Bible that was on fire but did not burn up, I can't tell you how but I do believe it because God said it and that enough for me.:thumbs: And Psalm 66: 1-2, says
1. Make A joyful noise unto God, all ye lands: 2. Sing forth the honour of his name: make his praise glorious.(KJV)
Now go to the sites I give you hear and you tell me what one makes a joyful noise, ok? http://www.rsjames.com/ then go to http://www.brianfreeandassurance.com/ and click where it says Click Here right under "It's So God" :thumbs:

Please don't be upset at me for how I see the this, I don't like to upset anyone.:type:

 

OK. I'll be waiting.

Will you please drop the childish "Oh, you're just mad because I disagree with you".

 

I'm sorry for makeing you mad. And I have said where I stand on this, so if you wanna disagree with me thats fine, but I am sorry for upseting you! :Fish:

 

Why can't you just answer the questions?

 

I thought I did allready! What is your question?:type:

 

Hey Mike, ever feel like your spitting into the wind?:smilewinkgrin:

Bro Tony

 

No. I asked you several questions in post 32 and elsewhere and you've completely ignored them.

 

JCH,

I would ask two favors of you:
(1) It is obvious that there are folks such as Mike and myself who have done their homework on this issue. We give factual information--we point out factual and logical errors on propaganda sites such as av1611.org. Any "Christian" site that lies to make its point (such as av1611.org) should be completely discounted and condemned unilaterally by all believers. Even if you agree with their points, their lying to make them is just plain wrong. We're just asking you to do your homework as we do. It's fine and dandy if you like a particular quartet more than a CCM solo artist. But your preference proves nothing--it's preference. If you want to make allegations, show some scriptural, scientific, and logical justifications for such.

(2) Most folks around here do a pretty good job of debating in a Christlike manner. I'm not the least bit ticked that we don't disagree. And, if you continue to disagree with me on this issue, God's still on His throne, and I'm willing to bet He can still use us both for His purposes. Let your skin thicken up a bit. I'm not attacking you, and you're not attacking me. And if either one of us ever get sideways, a moderator will let us know.

God's blessings,

RBell

 

I didn't ignor you, I just didn't try to answer you questions, you make it clear that you don't agree or like the site that I gave the link to so why should I waste my time, me and my grandfather will talk and he will ask me a question and I will answer then he has another question and we do that for like an hour and then my grandfather will say just foget about it Josh, with his first question he had done made up his mind that I could not prove him wrong, and I don't want to sit here and do that with you.:type:

 

Translation----I have no legitamate or biblical answer to your question so I am ignoring you, even though I said I had already answered your question, which I did not.

rbell is right those opposed to all CCM are merely expressing their opinion, unfortunately for the rest of us, they perceive their opinion to come straight from God.

Bro Tony