Do all doctrines carry the same weight?

[Salty]

I would say virtually everyone on this board would agree that doctrines such as the Virgin Birth, the sinless life of Christ, his death and Resurrection and his coming again

A friend of mine, Dr L. Duane Brown once explained that doctrines are like a Dartboard.

The Red in the middle would be non-negotiable major doctrines Such as listed in the first paragraph.

then each outlying circle would have less important.


So which circle would you put different doctrines in?

1) Bullseye

2) Circle 1 (closest to bullseye)

3) Circle 2

4) Circle 3

5) Circle 4 (closeth to the edge) Least important doctrine (compared) to the "bullseye" doctrines


RULES: 1) Name of doctrine ONLY
No discussion, NO Bible verses

If you find an interesting doctrine and location
feel free to start a new thread!

 

[Deacon]

Well I’d definitely put the bullseye doctrine in the middle…

 

[Van]

Apparently these are the doctrines we are allowed to rate:
Virgin Birth,
the sinless life of Christ,
his death and Resurrection
His coming again

I put Virgin birth and Second Coming in the 5 circle.
I put His sinless life in the 4 circle.
I put His death and Resurrection in the 2 circle.

Although probably not wanted, I would put three doctrines in the bullseye.
1) You are a wretched sinner going to Eternal Punishment.
2) God offers the gift of salvation from your just punishment.
3) Trust fully in Christ, and rely solely on Him for salvation.

What would I put in Circle 1? Strive to make Christ Lord of your life, try to become Christ-like and serve Him as an Ambassador with the ministry of reconciliation.

 

[Salty]

Van any doctrine can be rated - including KJVO, C vs A, gap theory, did Noah take termites on the Ark, Are Bowties Scriptual, Multiple pastors/elders, thithe or not, you name it is welcome.

 

[Marooncat79]

No they do not

baptism is a secondary issue

eschatology is at least secondary maybe tertiary

non negotiable

character and nature of God and Christ

the 5 Solas

 

[canadyjd]

Interesting concept:

Bullseye:
The current 66 book Bible we have is God’s
Infallible Word.
Christ died for our sins according to the
scriptures.
Christ was buried and raised from the dead
according to the scriptures
Christ was seen alive after His resurrection
by more than 500 people
The preaching of the gospel is the only
means by which people are saved.

I’ll post more later

peace to you

 

[37818]

2) Circle 1 (closest to bullseye)

* Premillennialism.
* The first resurrection precedes the rapture.
* The second appearing precedes the rapture, .
* Everyone's name starts out in the book of life,

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Would you consider this to be a valid doctrine? And if so then what weight would this carry?

Temporal Salvation: A Bogus or Biblical Concept?

 

[JonC]

Divinity of Christ - bullseye.

 

[37818]

Would you consider this to be a valid doctrine? And if so then what weight would this carry?

Temporal Salvation: A Bogus or Biblical Concept?

Being saved from a temporary event. Noah and his family being saved from the wicked world by means of that flood.

But the obtaining eternal life and to have the promise of heaven at death cannot be regarded as temporal salvation.

 

[37818]

* Premillennialism.
* The first resurrection precedes the rapture.
* The second appearing precedes the rapture, .
* Everyone's name starts out in the book of life,

There are more.
* Christ's two deaths on the cross.

 

[kyredneck]

Divinity of Christ - bullseye.

BINGO!!! JESUS IS GOD!

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

There are more.
* Christ's two deaths on the cross.

What are you talking about?

 

[Reformed1689]

Carry weight according to whom or what? All truth is equal. Now, I know that is not what the OP is talking about. But truth is truth. Now that is out of the way, carry on with the discussion.

 

[Van]

Van any doctrine can be rated - including KJVO, C vs A, gap theory, did Noah take termites on the Ark, Are Bowties Scriptual, Multiple pastors/elders, thithe or not, you name it is welcome.

Yes, after re-reading I see that you did not limit the rating to "biblical doctrines" but I think non-biblical doctrines (i.e. KJVO) would not be consider a "doctrine" and thus be excluded from our dartboard.

I see Canadyjd added one I missed, and a bullseye one to boot, the validity of our 66 book bible as the inspired Word of God.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Nobody mentioned the Trinity!

And how about salvation by Grace?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Interesting concept:

Bullseye:
The current 66 book Bible we have is God’s
Infallible Word.
Christ died for our sins according to the
scriptures.
Christ was buried and raised from the dead
according to the scriptures
Christ was seen alive after His resurrection
by more than 500 people
The preaching of the gospel is the only
means by which people are saved.

I’ll post more later

peace to you

I disagree with your last item. I believe that your salvation is via Gods Grace. If I had to rely on anyone preaching the gospel …. There is potential to be lost. So what you are saying is that you are putting a condition on salvation vs relying on the Lord.

 

[JesusFan]

I would say virtually everyone on this board would agree that doctrines such as the Virgin Birth, the sinless life of Christ, his death and Resurrection and his coming again

A friend of mine, Dr L. Duane Brown once explained that doctrines are like a Dartboard.

The Red in the middle would be non-negotiable major doctrines Such as listed in the first paragraph.

then each outlying circle would have less important.


So which circle would you put different doctrines in?

1) Bullseye

2) Circle 1 (closest to bullseye)

3) Circle 2

4) Circle 3

5) Circle 4 (closeth to the edge) Least important doctrine (compared) to the "bullseye" doctrines


RULES: 1) Name of doctrine ONLY
No discussion, NO Bible verses

If you find an interesting doctrine and location
feel free to start a new thread!

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Like how Dr Mohler has this, as 3 levels of doctrines, core/essentials of the Faith, convictions, and opinions!

 

[37818]

What are you talking about?

Isaiah 53:9. Matthew 27:46, Romans 5:8 being fulfilled by the time of John 19:28 and then John 19:30.

 

[Bible Thumpin n Gun Totin]

I am doing this from the viewpoint of the thief on the cross based on what seems to be "essential". Hence the sparse bullseye.

Bullseye:

• Divinity of Christ

Ring 1:

• Salvation by Grace, unearned through Christ's Death and Resurrection (Gospel)
• Virgin Birth
• Trinity
• Christ is Truly God, Truly Man (I.E can't adhere to Arianism)
• God's Omnipotence, and Omnipresence
• Canon of Scripture
• Inerrancy of Scripture
  
• Marriage is one man and one woman
  
• Women cannot hold Pastor/Bishop/Elder position
• Pro-Life

Ring 2:

• Creationism (Not evolution)
• Women cannot hold Deacon position

Ring 3:

• Believer's Baptism (I.E no babies)
• Reformed/Unreformed
• Cessationism
• Worship style (CCM/Traditional)

Ring 4:

• Eschatology (Pre/Post/A mil)
• Church Government (Congregationalism/Presbytery/Moses Style (whatever that's called I think Cav Chapel has it))

Ring 5:

• Church potlucks must contain Banana Pudding (Just kidding , but it does help!)

The "Fellowship" line for me is that one must adhere to the Bullseye, and all of Ring 1, but we can disagree about Ring 2, 3 and 4.

The "Salvation" line in my interpretation is that one can be Saved adhering only to the Bullseye, but I won't be fellowshipping at that level due to ignorance. Salvation via only the bullseye doctrine is incredibly rare IMO.