Do all doctrines carry the same weight?

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I am doing this from the viewpoint of the thief on the cross based on what seems to be "essential". Hence the sparse bullseye.

Bullseye:

• Divinity of Christ

Ring 1:

• Salvation by Grace, unearned through Christ's Death and Resurrection (Gospel)
• Virgin Birth
• Trinity
• Christ is Truly God, Truly Man (I.E can't adhere to Arianism)
• God's Omnipotence, and Omnipresence
• Canon of Scripture
• Inerrancy of Scripture
  
• Marriage is one man and one woman
  
• Women cannot hold Pastor/Bishop/Elder position
• Pro-Life

Ring 2:

• Creationism (Not evolution)
• Women cannot hold Deacon position

Ring 3:

• Believer's Baptism (I.E no babies)
• Reformed/Unreformed
• Cessationism
• Worship style (CCM/Traditional)

Ring 4:

• Eschatology (Pre/Post/A mil)
• Church Government (Congregationalism/Presbytery/Moses Style (whatever that's called I think Cav Chapel has it))

Ring 5:

• Church potlucks must contain Banana Pudding (Just kidding , but it does help!)

The "Fellowship" line for me is that one must adhere to the Bullseye, and all of Ring 1, but we can disagree about Ring 2, 3 and 4.

The "Salvation" line in my interpretation is that one can be Saved adhering only to the Bullseye, but I won't be fellowshipping at that level due to ignorance. Salvation via only the bullseye doctrine is incredibly rare IMO.

Consider moving nanner pudding up a few rings…. Also mashed taters and pork roast

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Like how Dr Mohler has this, as 3 levels of doctrines, core/essentials of the Faith, convictions, and opinions!

Oh…. This comes from Brother Albert! ​

 

[5 point Gillinist]

Isaiah 53:9. Matthew 27:46, Romans 5:8 being fulfilled by the time of John 19:28 and then John 19:30.

You'll have to clarify the doctrine that you are stating in regards to Jesus's "two" deaths. I'm hoping this isn't the WOF Jesus died spiritually, and went to hell.

 

[Salty]

Yes, after re-reading I see that you did not limit the rating to "biblical doctrines" but I think non-biblical doctrines (i.e. KJVO) would not be consider a "doctrine" and thus be excluded from our dartboard.

I see Canadyjd added one I missed, and a bullseye one to boot, the validity of our 66 book bible as the inspired Word of God.

some people do see KJO as doctrine -

So for the most part - this thread is perrty much an open subject.

Some could say that ciggerates is not mention - so that should not be a doctrine....

 

[tyndale1946]

Salvation is ALL of Jesus Christ... Dead Center!... Brother Glen

John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

While all these doctrine that have been mentioned are true, they do not mean SQUAT, until YOU know YOU are saved

 

[JesusFan]

I would say virtually everyone on this board would agree that doctrines such as the Virgin Birth, the sinless life of Christ, his death and Resurrection and his coming again

A friend of mine, Dr L. Duane Brown once explained that doctrines are like a Dartboard.

The Red in the middle would be non-negotiable major doctrines Such as listed in the first paragraph.

then each outlying circle would have less important.


So which circle would you put different doctrines in?

1) Bullseye

2) Circle 1 (closest to bullseye)

3) Circle 2

4) Circle 3

5) Circle 4 (closeth to the edge) Least important doctrine (compared) to the "bullseye" doctrines


RULES: 1) Name of doctrine ONLY
No discussion, NO Bible verses

If you find an interesting doctrine and location
feel free to start a new thread!

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Would say big problem is when our personal convictions, preferences, and opinions are elevated to same level as essential and core doctrines!

 

[George Antonios]

Good OP.

Ring 1:

1. Canon of Scriptures (from whence all doctrines derive)
2. Deity of Christ
3. Salvation through the righteousness of Christ and his work alone
   
   Ring 2:

1. Pre-millennialism (the statistically provable #1 subject of the Bible)
   
2. Dispensationalism
3. Pre-tribulation rapture of the rapture (because the difference in views on this affects soteriology)
4. Eternal security (only in the church age)
5. Believer's baptism
6. The preservation of an accessible perfect Bible (without which all else would be in doubt)
7. Non-Charismatism
8. Male leadership
9. Non-Calvinism and Non-Arminianism
10. Non-Ecumenism

Ring 3:

1. Church administration
2. Closed/Open Communion
3. Gap in Genesis 1
   
4. Finer points of eschatology

Ring 4:

1. Veil on women's heads
2. Etc.

Of course, for the Uber-Spiritual Christian, there is only one ring; they're all #1...

 

[Salty]

George - Excellent Post -
I am not commenting if I agree or disagree - rather you have answered as requested in the OP!

 

[37818]

You'll have to clarify the doctrine that you are stating in regards to Jesus's "two" deaths. I'm hoping this isn't the WOF Jesus died spiritually, and went to hell.

No, not the WOF heresy. I specified on the cross. The death of His soul for His shedding His blood for sin, (snip)

admin NOTE: per OP instructions

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Being saved from a temporary event. Noah and his family being saved from the wicked world by means of that flood.

But the obtaining eternal life and to have the promise of heaven at death cannot be regarded as temporal salvation.

May I ask, do you subscribe to “reformed theology.” See it appears that you are insisting on only one way to salvation, I.e., justification by faith alone. Is that correct?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Like how Dr Mohler has this, as 3 levels of doctrines, core/essentials of the Faith, convictions, and opinions!

And how many forms of salvation does Dr. Mohler have?

 

[JesusFan]

And how many forms of salvation does Dr. Mohler have?

Just one, how about you?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Just one, how about you?

I’m not a Calvinist so I have scriptural flexibility an integrity. When you read about Lot, Kings David and Saul, The Rich Young man, Samson etc, do you see stalwart servants of the Lord?

 

[37818]

May I ask, do you subscribe to “reformed theology.” See it appears that you are insisting on only one way to salvation, I.e., justification by faith alone. Is that correct?

Subscribe to the 5 solas. God's word alone, God's grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone, to God's glory alone. So yes, justification by faith alone. I am not a Calvinist, not Arminian in my view. I believe sanctification prior to repentance. Repentance prior to faith. Faith prior to regeneration. God alone does the regeneration aka the new birth. Other similarities and differences.