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Do Black Lives Matter? OR, Should ALL Lives Matter?

Do black lives matter, OR do ALL lives matter?!

  • Black lives matter ....

    Votes: 3 25.0%
  • All lives matter ....

    Votes: 9 75.0%

  • Total voters
    12

Zaac

Well-Known Member
So, are you telling us that, yes, blacks are violent and aggressive and that it is something they learned from the white man?

I'm telling you that contrary to the narrative you want to tell, Blacks aren't any more violent than are the white folks they learned it from.:thumbsup:

See you and your FOX News crew are big on taking responsibility, except when the folks who need to take responsibility includes white people..
 

matt wade

Well-Known Member
I'm telling you that contrary to the narrative you want to tell, Blacks aren't any more violent than are the white folks they learned it from.:thumbsup:

See you and your FOX News crew are big on taking responsibility, except when the folks who need to take responsibility includes white people..

You say that black people would go and commit violence against my black friends that they disagree with. Are you saying that white people will also come and commit violence against my white friends they disagree with? My white friends disagree with you, are you going to come beat them up?
 

matt wade

Well-Known Member
You say that black people would go and commit violence against my black friends that they disagree with. Are you saying that white people will also come and commit violence against my white friends they disagree with? My white friends disagree with you, are you going to come beat them up?

No comment Zaac? Embarrassed that you admitted your belief that blacks are violent?
 

Zaac

Well-Known Member
No comment Zaac? Embarrassed that you admitted your belief that blacks are violent?

I had already answered your question. Now what you may want to do is go reel in the next Dylann Roof and deal with the folks who brought violence to this country.
 

matt wade

Well-Known Member
I had already answered your question. Now what you may want to do is go reel in the next Dylann Roof and deal with the folks who brought violence to this country.

Actually you didn't answer. Let me refresh your memory:

"You say that black people would go and commit violence against my black friends that they disagree with. Are you saying that white people will also come and commit violence against my white friends they disagree with?"

You haven't answered that.

Also, what people brought violence to this country that I can go "reel in"?
 

Zaac

Well-Known Member
Actually you didn't answer. Let me refresh your memory:

"You say that black people would go and commit violence against my black friends that they disagree with. Are you saying that white people will also come and commit violence against my white friends they disagree with?"

You haven't answered that.

Also, what people brought violence to this country that I can go "reel in"?

Actually I did answer. there are simply too many instances of police offers murdering unarmed black people and now a young 21 year old tells it like it is and exposes that ALL LIVES DON'T MATTER as he carried out the murder of 9 souls while spouting the right wing garbage of FOX News and "conservative" talk.

White people historically brought violence to the shores of the US and continue to terrorize Blacks and people of color with violence.
 

matt wade

Well-Known Member
Actually I did answer. there are simply too many instances of police offers murdering unarmed black people and now a young 21 year old tells it like it is and exposes that ALL LIVES DON'T MATTER as he carried out the murder of 9 souls while spouting the right wing garbage of FOX News and "conservative" talk.

White people historically brought violence to the shores of the US and continue to terrorize Blacks and people of color with violence.

No, you haven't answered. You've also added a new question to the list you haven't answered. Here's the questions:

Are you saying that white people will also come and commit violence against my white friends they disagree with?

What people brought violence to this country that I can go "reel in"?
 

just-want-peace

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Actually I did answer. there are simply too many instances of police offers murdering unarmed black people and now a young 21 year old tells it like it is and exposes that ALL LIVES DON'T MATTER as he carried out the murder of 9 souls while spouting the right wing garbage of FOX News and "conservative" talk.

White people historically brought violence to the shores of the US and continue to terrorize Blacks and people of color with violence.

Would you be kind enough to explain the highlighted portion with specifics and not generalities? Would love to know "who said what", that fits this criteria.
Thank you!
 

Eric B

Active Member
Site Supporter
"Black Lives Matter" is fine. The problem is that many black people in this country don't really act as though they believe it.

If black parents believed it they would be keeping their children in after dark and encouraging them to study instead of allowing them to run the streets.

Black parents would be telling their children to respect all adults, especially adults in authority such as police and school authorities.

Black parents would be teaching their children to respect the property of others.

Black parents would be teaching their children to respect females.

Black parents would not allow their children to listen to music that disrespects women and praises the gangster lifestyle.

Need I go on?

As it stands it seems that "black lives matter" is just a slogan...

Like cheering for your local sports team without investing anything real into it.
The problem here is way too much generalization. Not to mention THESE alarming statements:
I'll address the root cause of the rage held in the black communities. It stems from the fact that the black communities are racist. They feel they are entitled to things that other hard working Americans are not. They feel they are owed something, instead of trying to earn something. It lies in the fact that black communities are violent and drug infested. It comes from a blame everyone else for their problems mentality.

That's the root cause and you can stick your retort where the sun don't shine.

History shows blacks aren't concerned with much other than a violent culture. Explains their fascination with guns, gansta rap, gangs, drugs, and riots.

Don't forget, they need the right people in office to continue to give them money in order to remain in slavery to the government that is really oppressing them. It is not white and black. It is putting something, anything their hands, BUT just enough to barely keep a roof over their heads and food on the table. Then they can get cabin fever and all riled up at the right time in order to riot and blame it on anyone but themselves.

No one likes Zaac charging at "white people" and making them all "guilty" of the entire history of racism in the country, but statements like the above is exactly the same thing. People complain of "the race card" being played on them, when they're still putting it in the deck to begin with!
(And as conservative Christians, people are forgetting all the criticism of society as a whole for slacking off on morality/respect, etc. in raising kids. Now, it's all suddenly become 'split' off onto just one group).

And like charging all whites with racism, it's a ridiculous generalization. Especially the oft insisted “blacks just want free money and don’t want to work”, which is what it always comes back to.

The shooter was obviously operating off of beliefs like that, but then of all the people agreeing with that and spouting it off themselves, no one wants to own the premise behind his actions. (e.g. What else should be done with these "problem people" who just refuse to come up to "par" with "the rest of us", won't work, just want and are getting all our money for free, filling the nation with poverty and violence/crime etc.; either themselves, or from not teaching their kids right)?

Here's an article on this. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/18/charleston-church-shootin_n_7613540.html

It’s a shame this happened and I do feel bad for the victims and their families. However, it’s making me sick (although no surprise) how this is being spun by the media. Racially charged killings? It’s a fact that Blacks commit way more crimes per capita and behave a certain way, that’s why they get chased and hurt. They do rape our women, and they are taking over our country and cost way too much money to maintain. But none of these points will ever be addressed because then it would bring open discussion to the NEGRO PROBLEM IN OUR SOCIETY … which is theREAL news.

Doesn't this sound SO familiar???

Notice, (in all of this) no distinction is made between the people as a whole, and the individuals who are either committing the crimes, abusing assistance (which again, is way overrated) or not raising their children properly.
People seem to want some sort of en-masse scolding, correcting, teaching, etc. of an entire “people”. It’s like you’ve caught a bad child doing something wrong, and aim to take him to the woodshed to "fix" him, but that’s ONE person. We’re talking about millions of individuals, all different, and making separate sorts of choices. But it's like they're not people; they're just a bad singular entity (like some sort of zombie race or something with a single soul) we just wish were corralled. And isn't that a kind of "superior/inferior" relationship? "Good, 'exceptional' US, and bad, 'pathological' THEM"?

So to say “they just need to...” is not going to do anything. You already have families working raising their children as best as they can. What do you expect them to do, (since it’s the whole “community”)?

In these sweeping generalizations, the most we get, eventually, is "well, I have some black friends, and they aren't like that... But the rest of them..."
This is what's been called "good ones". You berate the whole community, but then make a few exceptions, the "good ones", to claim the issue is "character and not race", but then once the good ones are set aside, then you go back to upbraiding the rest of the group, which is obviously "bad" . Now people began seeing through that a long time ago, so it's not helping either.
 

Zaac

Well-Known Member
No one likes Zaac charging at "white people" and making them all "guilty" of the entire history of racism in the country, but statements like the above is exactly the same thing. People complain of "the race card" being played on them, when they're still putting it in the deck to begin with!
(And as conservative Christians, people are forgetting all the criticism of society as a whole for slacking off on morality/respect, etc. in raising kids. Now, it's all suddenly become 'split' off onto just one group).

I have specifically said the white people who teach racism and racial prejudice. ANd they should feel guilty as they are.

The kid said what he did because racist and racially prejudiced white people, like many on this board, have taught him and generations these stereotypes about Black people.

They espouse these parrot points of FOX News as though they are the truth and then don't want to shoulder the responsibility for creating Frankenstein
 

Eric B

Active Member
Site Supporter
Since I was here way longer than Zaac (the year after the founding of the BB, in fact), then you're accusing me of using the "Zaac" account as a sock puppet (And I saw someone accuse him of posting under other names as well).
Either that, or anyone who disagrees with you must be one person (just like I mentioned a whole race is being treated like it's a single person).

The difference is, that I don't charge in at at a group with blanket statements like calling a whole people or nation "racist". I'm just pointing out that the rhetoric many use is way overgeneralized and connects with that of those who most would admit as being racist.
 
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righteousdude2

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
The problem here is way too much generalization. Not to mention THESE alarming statements:

No one likes Zaac charging at "white people" and making them all "guilty" of the entire history of racism in the country, but statements like the above is exactly the same thing. People complain of "the race card" being played on them, when they're still putting it in the deck to begin with!
(And as conservative Christians, people are forgetting all the criticism of society as a whole for slacking off on morality/respect, etc. in raising kids. Now, it's all suddenly become 'split' off onto just one group).

And like charging all whites with racism, it's a ridiculous generalization. Especially the oft insisted “blacks just want free money and don’t want to work”, which is what it always comes back to.

The shooter was obviously operating off of beliefs like that, but then of all the people agreeing with that and spouting it off themselves, no one wants to own the premise behind his actions. (e.g. What else should be done with these "problem people" who just refuse to come up to "par" with "the rest of us", won't work, just want and are getting all our money for free, filling the nation with poverty and violence/crime etc.; either themselves, or from not teaching their kids right)?

Here's an article on this. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/18/charleston-church-shootin_n_7613540.html

Doesn't this sound SO familiar???

Notice, (in all of this) no distinction is made between the people as a whole, and the individuals who are either committing the crimes, abusing assistance (which again, is way overrated) or not raising their children properly.
People seem to want some sort of en-masse scolding, correcting, teaching, etc. of an entire “people”. It’s like you’ve caught a bad child doing something wrong, and aim to take him to the woodshed to "fix" him, but that’s ONE person. We’re talking about millions of individuals, all different, and making separate sorts of choices. But it's like they're not people; they're just a bad singular entity (like some sort of zombie race or something with a single soul) we just wish were corralled. And isn't that a kind of "superior/inferior" relationship? "Good, 'exceptional' US, and bad, 'pathological' THEM"?

So to say “they just need to...” is not going to do anything. You already have families working raising their children as best as they can. What do you expect them to do, (since it’s the whole “community”)?

In these sweeping generalizations, the most we get, eventually, is "well, I have some black friends, and they aren't like that... But the rest of them..."
This is what's been called "good ones". You berate the whole community, but then make a few exceptions, the "good ones", to claim the issue is "character and not race", but then once the good ones are set aside, then you go back to upbraiding the rest of the group, which is obviously "bad" . Now people began seeing through that a long time ago, so it's not helping either.

Where can I buy the book that this came out of? :type:
 
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