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I understand there were some mild Catholics such as Thomas A Kimpis in the past while there scarcely another group of believers outside Roman Catholic and Catholic was alomst the only denomination of Christianity in Europe.Originally posted by Born Again Catholic:
Here are just a few items during Mass that you would have heard if you actually attended a Catholic Church
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I understand there were some mild Catholics such as Thomas A Kimpis in the past while there scarcely another group of believers outside Roman Catholic and Catholic was alomst the only denomination of Christianity in Europe.Originally posted by Eliyahu:
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Here are just a few items during Mass that you would have heard if you actually attended a Catholic Church
Claudia, I don't know where you were, but I heard it every Saturday and Sunday morning, minimum.Originally posted by Claudia_T:
Eliyahu,
I grew up as a Catholic till I was age 14 and not once did I ever hear anything in church or catechism school about Jesus dying on the cross for my sins.
I didnt find out about that till later and always wondered why they didnt even say anything about that in the church.
Claudia
Doing penance is unbiblical. Can you find such a concept in the Bible. If so demonstrate it.Originally posted by KellyWhite:
Jesus died for our sins. That doesn't mean that we can sin and sin and sin without consequences. In order to be forgiven for your sins you have to be repentant and do your penance.
It's really very simple.
I don't really like to deal with such hypothetical situations. First of all I do not believe that a saved man would enter into a homosexual relationship. He has the Holy Spirit dwelling in Him. His life is continually changing from the time he is saved onward.Originally posted by Matt Black:
Repentance is not unbiblical, as I'm sure you'll agree. The issue then becomes how best we act out that repentance and what effect, if anything, lack of repentance has on salvation.
Let me put this example to you: if a man comes to faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour and is thus saved, and then subsequently enters into an unrepentant homosexual lifestyle would you say that man is still saved? If you say he is not, what is necessary for him to do to become saved again?
Here I see problems with your faith. Earnestly I want to help you realize them and correct them.Originally posted by KellyWhite:
Jesus died for our sins. That doesn't mean that we can sin and sin and sin without consequences. In order to be forgiven for your sins you have to be repentant and do your penance.
It's really very simple.
Perhaps you have written an ambiguous statement.Originally posted by KellyWhite:
The Catholic homilies I've heard in my life haven't concerned burning Bibles because Catholics don't believe in the Bible.
I don't really like to deal with such hypothetical situations. First of all I do not believe that a saved man would enter into a homosexual relationship. He has the Holy Spirit dwelling in Him. His life is continually changing from the time he is saved onward.Originally posted by DHK:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Matt Black:
Repentance is not unbiblical, as I'm sure you'll agree. The issue then becomes how best we act out that repentance and what effect, if anything, lack of repentance has on salvation.
Let me put this example to you: if a man comes to faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour and is thus saved, and then subsequently enters into an unrepentant homosexual lifestyle would you say that man is still saved? If you say he is not, what is necessary for him to do to become saved again?
I have to correct this statement, Jim. The reason many parish church Bibles were chained to the lectern in Anglican churches was because they were typically ornate, expensive and accordingly prone to being nicked; quite often they were paid for (usually through the tithe) by the whole parish community, the community would thus have a sense of 'ownership' of that particular Bible and it would sometimes be the only Bible to which they had access if they were poor. The Bible was therefore regarded as precious by the parish and it was the parish (rather than the individual priest) who kept it chained when not in use.Originally posted by Jim1999:
I seem to recall Bibles bing burned and locked away by protestants in England because they didn't want the common people reading them...Check out some of the church libraries. They have chains in front of all books so common people can't access them.