My wife and I both have "Do Nor Resuscitate" forms signed. Neither of us want any extreme measures performed on us.
Just curious, do you have a resuscitate order on file?
Just curious, do you have a resuscitate order on file?
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Do Nor Resuscitate
- Thread starter Crabtownboy
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I'm in no particular hurry to meet my Maker but when the time comes I will be in no particular hurry to prolong it.
I"M GOING TO HEVEN AND I CANT WAIT
Why do we sing this chorus when we really dont mean it?
Philippians 1:20-24 NAS77
20 according to my earnest expectation and hope, that I shall not be put to shame in anything, but that with all boldness, Christ shall even now, as always, be exalted in my body, whether by life or by death.
21 For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain.
22 But if I am to live on in the flesh, this will mean fruitful labor for me; and I do not know which to choose.
23 But I am hard-pressed from both directions, having the desire to depart and be with Christ, for that is very much better;
24 yet to remain on in the flesh is more necessary for your sake.
The issue is that if I have a heart attack right now, a DNR means "let me die". However, MANY people have almost died from a heart attack and were "brought back" - and went on to live decades more of a wonderful life.
If there is no brain activity, then I want a DNR and to be disconnected from life support. But short of that, there are tons of situations that make it not so cut and dry for me to sign a paper saying "Do Not Resuscitate". I'm not afraid to die but I've got work to do here and I'm not planning to go any sooner than God calls me home. When He calls me home, no amount of resuscitation will bring me back.
If there is no brain activity, then I want a DNR and to be disconnected from life support. But short of that, there are tons of situations that make it not so cut and dry for me to sign a paper saying "Do Not Resuscitate". I'm not afraid to die but I've got work to do here and I'm not planning to go any sooner than God calls me home. When He calls me home, no amount of resuscitation will bring me back.
SaggyWoman
Active Member
I personally do not have a DNR order, but my mom does.
I do not have a DNR. I am young (relatively) and do not wish to have one. And if I were old, I wouldn't have one either. It is my opinion that today's society has lost much of its respect for life and has developed a twisted definition of "dignity", and that in many if not most cases today a DNR is tantamount to murder. Unpopular opinion, I know.
SolaSaint
Well-Known Member
We have a DNR for my Mother, but she has advanced Alzheimer's. The ER at our local hospital suggested we do this for if she was ever to go into cardiac arrest then they would probably break her ribs trying to bring her back. We don't want that to happen. Me and my wife have decided not to keep each other on machines if we are brain dead.
But it is YOUR choice
Not every practice of medicine is necessarily ethical. Doctors do not always do the right/moral thing.
I'm assuming you mean "Do NOT" rather than "Do nor". I would like to have that order drawn up, if I knew how to go about doing it. I do not want to be hooked up to machines to be kept artificially alive; that is not life. I read once about a guy who had "Do not resuscitate" tattooed on his chest.
Having been an ICU nurse for decades....I know that I do not want to die with a d**** tube down my throat.
Ideally, I will be conscious or mostly so. For me a DNR means up to and including CPR but NOT intubation....if pounding on my chest and kick starting it, shoving loads of chemicals into me don't do the trick well, then let nature take its course.
The slow shutting down of the body and the agony of family and friends waiting dependent on what the medical staff think you may want( knowing full well that medical and adjunct staff have cultural mores which may be dissimilar to mine), and NEVER mind what the hospital financial department wants......never forget that medicine has been offered up on the altar of Manon.
I commend my life to God, into your arms O Lord, into your arms.
Ideally, I will be conscious or mostly so. For me a DNR means up to and including CPR but NOT intubation....if pounding on my chest and kick starting it, shoving loads of chemicals into me don't do the trick well, then let nature take its course.
The slow shutting down of the body and the agony of family and friends waiting dependent on what the medical staff think you may want( knowing full well that medical and adjunct staff have cultural mores which may be dissimilar to mine), and NEVER mind what the hospital financial department wants......never forget that medicine has been offered up on the altar of Manon.
I commend my life to God, into your arms O Lord, into your arms.
I have looked after a "brain dead" person exactly ONCE, and what an appalling experience that was. This poor guy was being ventilated whilst his family were being tracked down, the hospital wished to harvest his organs etc.
For 6 hours I had every clown oops I mean medico practise putting in arterial lines, central lines etc, poking and prodding his body...this man was dehumanised to that of a slab of meat. I complained to my superior (I was doing an agency shift ) who said basically shut up ...I had never experienced this before, it was to me an ethical issue, I made sure it never happened to me again.
For 6 hours I had every clown oops I mean medico practise putting in arterial lines, central lines etc, poking and prodding his body...this man was dehumanised to that of a slab of meat. I complained to my superior (I was doing an agency shift ) who said basically shut up ...I had never experienced this before, it was to me an ethical issue, I made sure it never happened to me again.
I don't have a DNR----but I told my wife that if the doctor has to use a defibulator on me-----if he gets no response from me after about the second time he's pushed the button-----for her to tell him to quit tryin'!!!:wavey::wavey:
Blackbird, best put that in writing. There are doctors who if not shown in writing will continue with all kinds of heroic efforts. This may be because they are afraid of being sued or because they can't stand the loss of a patient.
Also, IMHO, you are putting a terrible burden on your wife if that situation arose.
It is extremely rare that I agree with Crabby, but on this point I'm in 100% agreement.
Don't,for heavens sake, put your wife in that quagmire of a situation. This is probably one, if not THE, most emotionally stressful situations ever. This IS NOT a time for her to have to make rational decisions.
Have what you want in writing, IN WRITING, so there can/will be no "Monday morning quarterbacking" after the fact, either from others OR your wife.
Much easier for her to live with the result rather than her wondering "IF----", a week, month, year later!!
Archie the Preacher
Member
Much like some others, I don't want to be kept alive if I'm going to be restricted to a bed with tubes stuck - everywhere.
A simple cardiac arrest, with expectation I will resume relatively normal life, okay. But I do not want to have my house and possessions all get sold off at bargain basement prices to pay for some doctor's Mercedes. Or the new wing on the hospital, either.
I want my house and possessions to go to my kids; perhaps pay for their Fords and Dodges.
I am at peace with God and ready to go home. I'm not trying to hurry it up, but my time is up, I don't want to dither about it, either.
A simple cardiac arrest, with expectation I will resume relatively normal life, okay. But I do not want to have my house and possessions all get sold off at bargain basement prices to pay for some doctor's Mercedes. Or the new wing on the hospital, either.
I want my house and possessions to go to my kids; perhaps pay for their Fords and Dodges.
I am at peace with God and ready to go home. I'm not trying to hurry it up, but my time is up, I don't want to dither about it, either.
Even if it's in writing, unless the doctors are aware of it, they will work under the assumption of needing to resuscitate. It's not like even having it in writing means everyone knows about it.