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Do people which commit suicide automatically go to hell?

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by xdisciplex, Jan 4, 2007.

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  1. Diggin in da Word

    Diggin in da Word New Member

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    Suicide.

    No special law is found against this crime, for it is included in the prohibition against killing. Contrary to the practice and the philosophy of paganism, the act was held in deep abhorrence by the Hebrews because of the high value placed on human life. It was held inexcusable that any but the most degraded and satanic should lay hands on their own lives. Only the remorse of the damned could drive one to it, as witness Saul (1Sa 31:4) and Judas (Mt 27:5).
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    The keeper . . . drew out his sword. He was responsible with his life for the safety of his prisoners. Fancying them gone, he determined, like a Roman, to anticipate disgrace by death. Right there at Philippi, Brutus and Cassius had each inflicted self-death. Self-murder was very common among the Romans.
    The Peoples New Testament notes on Acts 16:27
     
  3. Allan

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    So we are the keepers of the salvation that God gave us as His gift so bestowed.

    Our salvation is completely dependent upon living a sinless life now that we are saved, is that what you are saying??

    What you are equating is the same as a person who looks in lust upon a woman (if even for an instant), is hit by car and dies instantly - that they to will be in hell for all adulters will be cast into the lake of fire. And did not Jesus say to look upon a woman in a lustful way that you have even now commited adultry in your heart.

    An act does not send someone to hell but a lifestyle (which is what those particular verses denote) that declare you were never saved to begin with. A saved person lives differently than a lost person but they are still suceptable to falling into sin as well. The difference is that the true born again child of the Living God will not, NAY, Can Not stay in such a contradictory life so seperated from Christ who purchased us by His own blood.

    Though suicide is a terrible thing and one a believer should not - it is not a sin that condemns us to hell. We are condemed to hell because We ARE Sinners or rebellious toward and have not God. We do not go to hell for sin but rejection of His Christ the Lord Jesus. Please tell me which sin is greater - suicide/murder or lieing in the eyes and according to the standard of God. God states that to break one is to break ALL the law. Their isn't one above another for they all are equal in the sight of God - that being Sin! Yes, there are differing consequences but all the same infraction - you have broken Gods law. But salvation is by Grace through faith and NOT of yourselves... There was nothing you can do to earn it and there is (with great assurance) nothing you can do to keep it, since salvation is of God or better a work of God in our lives.

    Let me just add this last peice about being saved:
    NOTE: saved is in the past perfect tense showing a completed act HAS been done. Which takes works out of the equation and keeps your boasting silent.

    It is also in the passive voice which means The passive voice represents the subject as being the recipient of the action. And in no way indicates the action is continued on nor is it completed by the subject. Interesting how one word can unravil such drivil like conditional salvation.

    We can not save ourselves and by that token if we can not save ourselves we (with great assurance) can not keep ourselves saved since it was an act of God to begin with. Unless of course you are greater than God who saved you.
     
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    If a man could not repent just before death in suicide, then the same could be said for David when he killed Uriah the Hittite. What if he died of a heart attack shortly after. What his repentance have been all for nought??
     
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    Having said that, this thread is gone well beyond the 30 page mark and I should close it. Please feel free to start another of a similar nature.
     
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