Do they know what their leaders condone?

[fortytworc]

I can't believe the membership of the largest denomination in the U.S.A. continues to attend if they know that the leadership teaches an abused spouse should stay, pray and though the abuse will get worse, pray more!

http://archive.org/details/PaigePattersonsbcAdviceToVictimsOfDomesticViolence

This is 12 years old. The President of the Southern Baptist Convention. I can't toss it aside. IMO this is a very important piece of information.

I had to leave for awhile. While I was gone I realized THE HUGE error of mine by not doing any further research. Man, I was So angry! I let my emotions get the best of me. Now, I must say I have rushed to see if I could correct things, but here goes :


http://cryingoutforjustice.wordpress.com/tag/southern-baptist-convention/


Here is part of the statement :Our Position on Divorce
We believe that marriage is a covenant, the terms of which are the vows. Habitual, unrepentant, violation of those vows destroys the covenant and entitles the wronged spouse to divorce, though does not require it. The Bible sets out covenant-destroying sins: desertion and abuse (1 Cor. 7:15) – abuse is a form of desertion because the evil conduct violates and repels the victim – and adultery (Mat 19, Mk 10). God doesn't hate the legal process of divorce; he hates the sins of desertion, abuse and adultery that cause marriages to break down. We believe that a wronged party, after divorce, is free to remarry, only in the Lord (i.e., another believer).

Though it is still hard for me to fathom how a grown man could have said those things 12 years ago I must say I am relieved to see that the "powers that be" in the SBC have changed their official stance on this horrible way Satan keeps some of God's people beaten down, terrorized, and isolated.
I will try to be more calm and level headed in the future when something grabs me so intensely.
I apologize to any and everyone who was hurt, misled, or suffered in any way by my thread. Please forgive me.

The above url is not part of any SBC ANYTHING. (official or otherwise).

I have tried to find an updated statement on domestic violence by the Southern Baptist Convention. When it comes to an Official statement, resolution, position this is all I could find:

Resolution On Domestic Violence

June 1979

WHEREAS, In this country it is now estimated that as many as 2,000 children die each year as a result of domestic violence and as many as two million suffer from abuse and neglect, and

WHEREAS, Children in one of ten American families hit, beat, stab, or shoot their parents, and

WHEREAS, Spouse battering, violent acts by either husband or wife, occur in more than 20 percent of American homes, and

WHEREAS, More police die as a result of answering domestic violence calls than any other aspect of their work, and

WHEREAS, Studies indicate that once domestic violence occurs, there is a higher chance of its occurring again and then continuing through several generations,

Therefore be it RESOLVED, That we recognize domestic violence as one of the serious moral issues of our time, and

Be it further RESOLVED, That we encourage local churches to be involved in local programs of ministry for those involved in domestic violence, and that we encourage pastors to utilize available resources such as public and voluntary organizations which can aid them in ministering to families touch by domestic violence, and

Be it further RESOLVED, That we encourage the establishment of clear and responsible public policy related to domestic violence, which policy should be effective at the local, state, and national levels.


This is a resolution from friggin 1979!!!!
As bad as that may be: This 'Resolution' HAS NO SUBSTANCE! It is a bunch of words that amount to a Waste Of Ink!!! If anybody can find anything more recent and official please post it.I must say(but who am I) I am very disappointed at this point. This poor excuse of a statement just about leaves me back to the beginning before I did more research and my emotions were leading the way. Disappointment now. Very Angry (rightly so) if nothing else comes in.

I am back to where I started only without being anger driven.
As I see it: The SBC knowingly, willfully, and deliberately go past tolerating domestic violence within their membership, and even leadership; they promote it by encouraging (telling, manipulating?) victims to stay in the same house with business (beatings) as usual and even when it gets worse.Listen again if you will.
http://archive.org/details/PaigePattersonsbcAdviceToVictimsOfDomesticViolence

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFPkN3zKN2s&feature=related

The most recent official statement is from 1979 and says nothing.
IMO the leadership of the SBC need to apologize to the membership and step down. We jump on Catholics for attending their services without knowing what their church really teaches. To those who are or become true Christians we expect that once they know the truth of the wrong teachings they will leave. I'm not equating Catholicism with Southern Baptists. It's not a perfect example, but the idea of believing and staying in an organization that condones such wrong doctrine is what I'm trying to get at. I would even stop short of saying that all should leave. If one, two, or three Sunday morning services would be boycotted to let them know that you know, and you want it changed.