Do we need HIV-positive Sesame Street Muppets?

Let's look at it this way--a character with GLASSES. It teaches other kids that glasses are not just for "nerds" or onl losers where them...its not the child's fault that she wears glasses, its something she was born with. In S.A. and many other African countries the AIDS epidemic is catastrophic. Kids need to learn that CHILDREN BORN WITH AIDS are not GAY, have not brought it on themselves because THEY sinned and CAN BE touched, loved and treated with RESPECT! This character has nothing to do with GAY, obviously the children would not be BORN if it was an issue of homosexuality.

 

To some degree, you could say that all those "disabilities" that Justified has listed are results of sin.

 

Well, seeing how most of you missed the point of my post and were quick to misjudge me, shows me your level of understanding, lodgic,compassion and maturity.

"You get me sick" "Get over yourself" and other remarks, is very mature? I feel better now!

If you would of read my post carefully and read my post as a new member here, you would of realized that I grew up with this program and I know what their agenda is. My 9 children pretty much don't watch it, as a matter of fact, they don't watch much TV anyway. And thanks Granny, you hit the nail right on the head!

First, I said characters, not people. Children relate better to fantasy then real life, in visuaL effects. I know that they have had other PERSONS with disabilities on their show.

Second, why didn't they do this with some of the sicknesses that have been around since the start of their production? Are you going to tell me that there are not children that have suffered from some of these other things or lost loved ones because of these things?

Third, why pick this one and why only Africa? And why pick something that is so strongly related to sinful actions.

Yes, I have compassion for the innocent children, and adults that have gotten this virus because of the sins of their fathers. (or the sins of their spouses)(or the sins of their needles)

Interesting!

 

Name me one group that has done more to spread HIV, & block govornment efforts to control the disease when it was in it's infancy ?

 

What were the circumstances surrounding the first outbreak of Aids? How did it spread so quickly? You can't tell me that gays didn't play a big part in it.
I love their souls and pray that they come to know God, but it makes me sick the way they prance around and have marches wanting their "freedoms".
And the ones on here that uphold them, need to get right with God themselves. Remember what happened to Sodom?

In Christ
Susan

 

Susanpet
the first outbreak has never been truly identified, last I heard the believe it was even around in the 1700's.

Mr, Curtis
you are saying Homosexuals tried to stop government involvement when it was first identified as in the US? I guess you never read the book "and the Band played on"

Squire
pandemic is (according to Mosby mediacl Dictionary) a disease that affects all or most of a population group. Well since the group that is most affected are women and children, then I dare say AIDS is not a gay disease, or even a sin disease!
I got one question if Aids is Gods way of punishing sin why are innocent affected and why has there been a decline of new cases in the US? So why has God stopped punishing us? I know if my children continually misbehave I don't let them go, I make the punishment harsher. God is our heavenly father wouldn't He do the same?
Are we as a nation drawing closer or farther from God? I would think farther, but heck what would I know?

 

Scarlett O. the reason I had not answered you is because I've not been at my computer since I posted last...I was not ignoring you. Justified has already given you a 'specific' and is totally correct. If you can't see the "hidden" agenda in the HIV muppet then most likely you won't recognize any other specifics. I thank the Lord for your insight, Justified, concerning what you allow your children to watch. I pray that more of God's people will wake up!

By the way folks, I'm GrannyGumbo's daughter, Robin :~) (Granny'sDaughter)

 

From the strong reaction by those opposed to the HIV muppet, you must think this muppet is gay, right? Otherwise, you have no CHRISTIAN objection.
Let me put it to you this way:
Pretend its a leper muppet, and some fakely pious religious types think being a leper necessarily means you sinned and deserve the illness.
What do you think Jesus' response would be?
How would he treat lepers? How would he feel about a leper muppet?
Is this issue really about sin? Or is it about compassion for those who are sick?
You know, I'm starting to wonder who is sickest. The ones with HIV or the ones with the hardened hearts.

 

You wonder if I'm a parent? Read my posts. I have a 2 year old daughter. Sesame Street is the only show we allow her to watch. We tape it so she can watch it later sometimes.
If you think this is some brainwashing attempt by SS producers, you must not be watching the show. My wife and I love the values SS reinforces to our little girl. I have absolutely NBJECTION to her watching an HIV muppet.

 

I don't think the poor little children who are already dying have sinned. It is so sad to think of those innocent babies, already born with that terrible disease. What could we protect them from, it is too late already.

 

Eagle, thank you for bringing this to light. I agree with you and it is a way of getting an opposing agenda into our childrens heads. That is why the muppets have been very affective in their programing. FANTASY! Not many children dislike it.
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Thank you GrannyD.
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David, Just remember that the sins of the fathers are pasted onto the children, from generation to generation. And just because you THINK Sesame Street is OK, wheather it's because you justify it in your own mind, or because millions watch it, so it has to be OK, doesn't make it wholesome, right, and/or innocent for you to allow the cracks in your childs foundation at such an early age.

Remember that the Lord Jesus said in Mk 10:15; "Whosoever shall not recieve the kingdom of God as a little child"

This is because little children will believe whatever they are taught, no matter what doctrine it is. Why do you think Hitler went after the schools?

And David, God holds us fathers accountable for our childrens sins, especially if we raised and taught them wrong. Or allowed them to be taught wrong.

 

To state Aids originated from sin is a misnomer. I will admit it may have proliferated because of sin, but since I was not around when the first incidence appeared I can not factually assume that orginated from sin.

 

Heptitis B is just as deadly as HIV and is more likely to be caused by STD or drug use. Plus it is a 100 times easier to catch Heptitis B then it is HIV. I read once (Not sure of the source) in Nursing School there was approximately 300,000 heptitis B cells in 1 tablespoon of blood, and only 300 HIV cells in the same amount of blood.

So if are going to start name some diseases that are passed on from sin this is another. Actually, I dare say all diease is a direct result of sin. I doubt before the fall of man that disease was prevelent in the garden of Eden. So all you AIDS = Gay people stop sinning so we can get rid of disease!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Justified,
Perhaps we aren't talking abou the same program. I'm talking about the Sesame Street that promotes kindness, honesty, hard work, education, love for your neighbor, wholesome artistic expression, fun, wonder, good manners, creativity, respect for others, generosity, and just general goodness. You folks who keep critisizing the show must not watch it. My wife and I are very careful about what we allow our child to read or watch. Sesame Street promotes Christian conduct as well (or more) than 90% of the "Christian" books and videos out today. When is the last time you SS bashers actually watched the show? Last year? Last decade? Never?

[ July 16, 2002, 11:17 AM: Message edited by: David Cooke, Jr. ]