Do we really have free choice?

I simply responded to post # 242. You make an attempt to discuss the relationship between man and God with no specific scripture mentioned. If bringing scripture into the equation is grevious to you I am puzzled. I am equally puzzled at posts made by people who have no time to make them. Why have a discussion on a Baptist board about the relationship between man and God that does not include scripture? I adressed free will or free choice which ever settles most gently in your mind which is the topic of the thread. Quite honestly free will (free choice) as well as many issues get discussed over and over again on many boards, and yet some one seems to find the energy to bring them up again. The topic of the thread is in itself calvinist and reformed related.

Out of approx. 60 posts you have made responding to those who have taken part in your op you refute other views with regularity but only twice do you ever mention scripture. It seems there is little to no theology in your theology. It is bold to ask a theological question, and refute answers to your question without any scripture. Often you refer others to previous posts to answer a question but since your answers contain no scripture it should be obvious that the questions being asked have not in fact already been answered.

In post 204 you said "We have to stick to our book of Truth. Once we fall out of line with what God has revealed in His Word, we are in error. This is the importance of doctrine. Doctrine is a fence that God provides to keep us within His boundaries, much like a fence in our backyard is there to keep our children with our boundaries. Don't be worrying about what theological direction I will be headed (such as universalism). The Bible and the Holy Spirit will always be my guide. I hunger for His Word. I hunger for truth."

98 % of your posts have failed to include any of Gods' Word. Where is your book of truth and hunger for His word in your responses? In the end my last post was a direct answer to your op and nothing else.

 

This Is Very True

 

As gb93433 says, "Every choice has consequences good or bad."

 

Here's a question:

Assuming that humans have no "free" will/choice.

Could an ominpotent God grant it to them?

HankD

 

Good question!

 

If God says that we can freely choose, and we say that we cannot choose freely, then: "Who is right, and who is wrong?"

 

mmmm ....

If 'nothing' is a 'null', and I choose to do nothing then what is the consequent?

 

like in repent? = death

 

Exactly!

If we repent = we die . . . .

Since death is eternal separation from God.

repent = hell



I just love using a false premise to support what God wrote in His Word . . .

 

What about dying dead to the love of sin??????????

 

You asked - I, among others answered, and I appreciate your reply. If you will show me error in His Word that was presented, it would help immensely. Error will stand until corrected. Book, chapter and verses will set me on the right path, showing error can be found.

Since you have not corrected what you believe to be error, error stands therefore it remains true, except with those who believe truth is error. Read your Bible to know the truth.

 

Why is that any different from knowing who will believe, if He is an all knowing God? That doesn't mean He caused us to believe.

 

Oh, but if He was an all knowing and all seeing God of all at once then He would know who believed same time as He elected them right? Except there was not time there. Again, poor man trying to know the mind of God.