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Translation...."Several self appointed Pharisees". White washed tombs.
(To show him the grace of God....????)
How *big* of them.
They are lucky they didnt get a *fist sandwich*
Shake the dust off. I would have done the same thing.
Of course. Of course they did. He hadnt been hurt enough yet at that point. Have to pour some handfulls of salt into the wound. Make him REALLLY hurt. Twist the knife in a little deeper. :BangHead:
Good for you.
Absolutely amazing. How can so many in the Church have such a huge and obvious blind spot regarding this???
May God have mercy.
If you went much further I might have become physically sick.
Once more....
MAY GOD HAVE MERCY.
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"In 1986, when I was the new pastor of a church in Central Texas, I visited in the home of a man who was formerly a pillar of the congregation. He had been inactive for a number of years and I wanted to introduce myself and invite him to join us in Bible study and worship.
He informed be that he hadn’t been to church in years because he was told he was a “moral corruptor” of the young people. He explained that his wife had become restless in their marriage during a time of economic hardship and decided to begin an affair while the children were at school and he was at work. This apparently went on for a few months behind his back until one day she ran off with another man, abandoning him and her own children.
He was devastated and tried to get in touch with her for several days to figure out if he could save their marriage, but she was already undertaking divorce proceedings. The pastor was involved in all of this and has enormous sympathy for his situation. However, the next Sunday morning when he arrived for worship, desperately craving the support of his church family, several self-appointed deacons met him at the door and informed him he was a “moral corruptor” of the youth people because of his family situation, and they would prefer that he not attend the church until his marriage was restored.
"Several self appointed deacons"
Translation...."Several self appointed Pharisees". White washed tombs.
"He explained that he didn’t have that much control over what his wife did and that she was the one who abandoned him and his children, had committed adultery, and was divorcing him – not the other way around. They said they understood that it was not his fault, and to show them the grace of God, he could still attend worship if he sat on the back row, did not speak to anyone there (especially the young people), and resign his membership."
(To show him the grace of God....????)
How *big* of them.
They are lucky they didnt get a *fist sandwich*
" He told them they wouldn’t have to worry about him anymore and walked out, never to return."
Shake the dust off. I would have done the same thing.
"He informed me he had not attended any church since that time (his wife divorced him and he eventually remarried – his second wife helped him raise the children his first wife abandoned) since church folks seemed to enjoy telling him he was living “in adultery.”
Of course. Of course they did. He hadnt been hurt enough yet at that point. Have to pour some handfulls of salt into the wound. Make him REALLLY hurt. Twist the knife in a little deeper. :BangHead:
"I apologized profusely for the church and for the way that Christians had treated him. He seemed to get a measure of relief from that,
Good for you.
"....but it was clear he was too hurt by church people to feel comfortable putting himself in that position again. As far as I know, he did not join another church. If he is still alive today, he would be well into his 80s, possibly older.
While I don’t think he should have given up on the church, I completely understand why he did it. And when I hear about “the good ole days” when the church ostracized divorced people, I get very frustrated.
I know too well, not just from stories like his (I’ve heard similar stories from a surprising number of people), but from personal experience when my new bride, a little over 18 months into our marriage, decided that being married didn’t solve all of her deep-seated problems and decided to cheat and eventually abandon me. I struggled for 16 months to restore our relationship after I could her in the act of adultery with one of her coworkers.
She eventually gave up on that guy and took up with at least one other, sometimes disappearing for days at a time when I didn’t know if she was dead or alive. She refused all attempts at counseling or discussing the issues and ran up enormous quantities of debt, so much so I could barely pay minimum payments on the credit cards (in Texas, your spouse’s debts are also your debts), much less pay them off. I ended up taking a second job to pay the bills and she complained that I worked too much (which was simply an excuse because she was the one who was rarely ever home, especially at night when I was home).
After extensive counseling with my pastor and other wise Christians, I finally filed for divorce. Strangely enough, the primary reason I filed for divorce was for the protection of our creditors. If she were allowed to continue to run up debt in my name, I wouldn’t be able to pay them back. Not only would that put me in the position of stealing from them when I filed bankruptcy, it would also strongly inhibit my ability to continue my life as a disciple of Jesus.
She was furious with me for filing for divorce and I gave her almost every asset we owned because I felt so guilty about having had to break my part of the “till death do us part” vows.
However, the church that I thought would support me, pretty much turned their back on me."
Absolutely amazing. How can so many in the Church have such a huge and obvious blind spot regarding this???
"Not only that, I had seminary friends and coworkers who were seminarians who seemed to take great pleasure in dissecting my situation, telling me how I must have somehow sinned in the whole process, and that I must have a girlfriend waiting in the wings. And that was to my face. Beyond that, I had to deal with people who avoided me and married male friends who somehow decided I must be after their wives or had some sort of ‘divorce disease’ and would not socialize with me anymore."
May God have mercy.
"On top of all that, I had people tell me I didn’t have enough respect for marriage since I divorced my wife. I started telling them they didn’t have enough respect for marriage if they think that marriage is a spiritual arrangement designed to entrap people in abusive and demeaning relationships that don’t reflect the character of Christ. For some strange reason, the very people who think that Christ calls them to be a bold confrontational prophet of righteousness seem to also believe that Christ demands that those in abusive marriages are called to be doormats and not confront the evil in their relationships.
I could go on, but I’ll end it there…"
If you went much further I might have become physically sick.
Once more....
MAY GOD HAVE MERCY.
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