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Do You Believe Race Relations have Improved Since MLK?

Hae race relations improved since MLK?

  • I am a white person and the answer is YES!

    Votes: 4 40.0%
  • I am a black person and the answer is YES!

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I am a person of color and the answer is YES

    Votes: 1 10.0%
  • I am a white person and the answer is NO!

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I am a black person and the answer is NO!

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I am a person of color and the answer is NO!

    Votes: 1 10.0%
  • I am white and there is still room for improvement.

    Votes: 3 30.0%
  • I am a person of color and there is room for improvement.

    Votes: 2 20.0%
  • No opinion ....

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No response meets my feelings, see comments!

    Votes: 3 30.0%

  • Total voters
    10

TCassidy

Late-Administator Emeritus
Administrator
And I believe this is the narrative that the political right has accepted as its mantra when addressing race relations in the United States. It's easy to place the blame on a black President because it removes us from being complicit.
You seem confused. Anyone who has ever read my posts or talked with me for more than 20 seconds knows I am as far from being "political right" as anyone you have ever met.

Oh, and don't play the race card. I said there is only one race on this planet, the human race, remember? Unless, of course, it is your intent to divide us by your imaginary notion of race. Typical.
 

Zaac

Well-Known Member
You seem confused. Anyone who has ever read my posts or talked with me for more than 20 seconds knows I am as far from being "political right" as anyone you have ever met.

I'm not confused. :laugh: I didn't say YOU were on the political right. I said it's the narrative that the political right has accepted.

It's the narrative that the political right pushes. Why you've adopted the same stance is your own reasoning.
Oh, and don't play the race card.

You know telling people not to play the race card is playing the race card. You're the one who spoke to the President dividing. You can use all the sociopolitical terms you wish, but everyone knows we're talking about the color of people's skin.

I said there is only one race on this planet, the human race, remember?

It's on the screen.
Unless, of course, it is your intent to divide us by your imaginary notion of race. Typical.


Typical of whom? It's not my fault that you want to blame the black President for race relations. I just never heard anybody speaking to race relations being made worse by Reagan or Bush I or II. But suddenly a black President gets in office and he makes everything the worst it's been since MLK?

Poppycock. A lot of yall are just upset because that he doesn't havae a problem letting you know that he's black and is fully aware that systemic racism and racial prejudice are still issues in this country.

He hasn't done anything to set back "race relations" in this country that a whole lot of "politically conservative" people haven't already been doing but refusing to take responsibility for.
 

righteousdude2

Well-Known Member
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I'm not confused. :laugh: I didn't say YOU were on the political right. I said it's the narrative that the political right has accepted.

It's the narrative that the political right pushes. Why you've adopted the same stance is your own reasoning.


You know telling people not to play the race card is playing the race card. You're the one who spoke to the President dividing. You can use all the sociopolitical terms you wish, but everyone knows we're talking about the color of people's skin.



It's on the screen.



Typical of whom? It's not my fault that you want to blame the black President for race relations. I just never heard anybody speaking to race relations being made worse by Reagan or Bush I or II. But suddenly a black President gets in office and he makes everything the worst it's been since MLK?

Poppycock. A lot of yall are just upset because that he doesn't havae a problem letting you know that he's black and is fully aware that systemic racism and racial prejudice are still issues in this country.

He hasn't done anything to set back "race relations" in this country that a whole lot of "politically conservative" people haven't already been doing but refusing to take responsibility for.

More of the same:Cherry picking with an extreme spin!
 

Bro. Curtis

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Typical of whom? It's not my fault that you want to blame the black President for race relations. I just never heard anybody speaking to race relations being made worse by Reagan or Bush I or II. But suddenly a black President gets in office and he makes everything the worst it's been since MLK?

Poppycock. A lot of yall are just upset because that he doesn't havae a problem letting you know that he's black and is fully aware that systemic racism and racial prejudice are still issues in this country.


I don't pay attention to the color of his skin. I have noticed it's awful thin.
 

Zaac

Well-Known Member
I don't pay attention to the color of his skin. I have noticed it's awful thin.

That in itself lends itself to racial prejudice. Black people have different color skin than do white people. They have to pay attention to it or end up dead somewhere. It matters. And the degree of racial prejudice and racism makes clear that it matters.
 

Bro. Curtis

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Site Supporter
:laugh:

If I notice his skin color, I'm a racist. If I ignore his skin color, I'm a racist.

There's no way to NOT be a racist with you, zaac, that's why I don't worry about how you and perhaps two other people here view me. You told me I was a sinner because I took my daughter out of a public school and put her in a Christian one. You are too puffed up and hateful to be anything but a parody.


Obama is very thin-skinned. Like his base. Like you. Say anything about him, and zaac says something about you. I know he's hard to defend.
 

Zaac

Well-Known Member
:laugh:

If I notice his skin color, I'm a racist. If I ignore his skin color, I'm a racist.

Love covers a multitude of sins. Do you love your neighbor the way you love yourself?

There's no way to NOT be a racist with you, zaac, that's why I don't worry about how you and perhaps two other people here view me.

What you are or are not doesn't have anything to do with me.



You told me I was a sinner because I took my daughter out of a public school and put her in a Christian one. You are too puffed up and hateful to be anything but a parody.

You are too much of a liar and uncomprehending to be anything but a parody.


Obama is very thin-skinned. Like his base. Like you. Say anything about him, and zaac says something about you. I know he's hard to defend.

Your skin seems to pretty thin too. Maybe you and Obama have more in common than you think?

He farts and yall complain of him being responsible for gas emissions. Give it a rest already.
 

Bro. Curtis

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Site Supporter
Love covers a multitude of sins. Do you love your neighbor the way you love yourself?
Probably more. I don't hold a very high opinion of myself, I'd be a mess if not for Christ Jesus and his sacrifice.



What you are or are not doesn't have anything to do with me.
It does when you constantly slam people for not living up to your standards.



You are too much of a liar and uncomprehending to be anything but a parody.
I'll admit to not being the brightest bulb, but I'd like to see you show me one of my lies.


Your skin seems to pretty thin too. Maybe you and Obama have more in common than you think?
"Too". as in "also". You admitted it. Sort of. Tried to put it on me.

He farts and yall complain of him being responsible for gas emissions. Give it a rest already.
Baloney. He has real problems.
 
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plain_n_simple

Active Member
"I don't hold a very high opinion of myself" You should, not in pride, but that you are accepted and a son of the living God. This is not meant as a rebuttal, but an encouragement.
 

Zaac

Well-Known Member
Probably more. I don't hold a very high opinion of myself, I'd be a mess if not for Christ Jesus and his sacrifice.

Then live like that and treat ALL others like you believe that.

It does when you constantly slam people for not living up to your standards.

Another lie as I have not a standard for anyone to live up to. From day one , I've done nothing but ask folks to think about how you're treating folks who don't share the same POV that you do because we're responsible for pointing folks to Christ, and not a political party. But the attitudes and comments from some have gotten nastier and nastier.

I'll admit to not being the brightest bulb, but I'd like to see you show me one of my lies.
Here's one.

It does when you constantly slam people for not living up to your standards.


"Too". as in "also". You admitted it. Sort of. Tried to put it on me.

Nope. I have no problem saying that he is thin skinned. Most Presidents become thin skinned.

Baloney. He has real problems.

And some of you act like you do too about things that have no eternal value whatsoever. It would go a really long way in helping race relations if the Body of Christ stopped with the politics of Sharpton and Hannity and Limbaugh and just started loving people and pointing them to Christ.

But as I've said in the past, some of you hold the positions that you do because you've placed too much emphasis on the politics and not more emphasis on loving people.

Some of you refuse to listen to Blacks and their perspective because of politics.
Some of you wanted to put the illegals on a bus and drive them back to the closest border crossing because of politics.

And it's like that again and again and again because politics have become more important than people.

There's no need to be upset just because I don't have a problem pointing it out.
 

Bro. Curtis

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Site Supporter
Then live like that and treat ALL others like you believe that.
You have no idea how I live. Self-righteous ignorant snap judgements are not debate.

Another lie as I have not a standard for anyone to live up to. From day one , I've done nothing but ask folks to think about how you're treating folks who don't share the same POV that you do because we're responsible for pointing folks to Christ, and not a political party. But the attitudes and comments from some have gotten nastier and nastier.

And here we go. You don't think you're nasty ? look at the unmerited things you have said about Romney ?


Here's one.

Not a lie. An observation.

And some of you act like you do too about things that have no eternal value whatsoever. It would go a really long way in helping race relations if the Body of Christ stopped with the politics of Sharpton and Hannity and Limbaugh and just started loving people and pointing them to Christ.
Talk to me and use what I say. Don't foist any of you hatred of others on me.

But as I've said in the past, some of you hold the positions that you do because you've placed too much emphasis on the politics and not more emphasis on loving people.
When talking to me, leave what others do out of it. I'll accept no responsibility, or even address what you say "some of us do".

Some of you refuse to listen to Blacks and their perspective because of politics.
Some of you wanted to put the illegals on a bus and drive them back to the closest border crossing because of politics.
See above.

And it's like that again and again and again because politics have become more important than people.
Seems pretty important to you, as well.

There's no need to be upset just because I don't have a problem pointing it out.
What specifically have you pointed out ? That you know how I live ? You know my experience with different races ? You've only pointed out that you're a self-pious know-it-all, who seems to think God gives you extra inspiration. You add to Christ's words. You add to other's words. All while pointing your finger at everyone else.
 
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