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do you like Robert Jeffress?

Calminian

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So saying people shouldn't get political is getting political??

Indeed, especially if you're specially calling someone out like Jeffress.

Abolitionism was fine so long as it was focused on slavery and not political candidates. ....

It's all about candidates man. It's misguided to think otherwise. You can't change anything unless you vote the right person into authority. Otherwise it's all talk.

Lincoln was necessary for the emancipation, and Christians got political and elected him into office.

The whole premise of your argument is naive. What makes you think you can separate issues from politicians? Wicked politicians would love Christians to do this, for it would ensure they would win every election. Thankfully most Christians don't buy the apolitical argument.
 

Reynolds

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I think when the church stopped loving people and became judgmental hypocrites they lost the USA. Railing from the pulpit about politicians is not a way to win people. Teach the bible and they will come to the truth through the Holy Spirit's conviction.
There is nothing mutually exclusive about doing what you say AND dominating the political landscape.
 

Revmitchell

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I think every christian is responsible to God but we should not be hasty to judge others for choosing differently. I think Jeffress is way too political as is Franklin Graham. Just preach the bible and people will figure it out. When we get political, politics ends up dirtying everyone's testimony.

This country was founded on those political sermons. We need our churches involved in these very important political issues. So long as the sermons are expository in nature and stick to the context of scripture and the word is rightly divided then there is no problem with being "political".
 
This country was founded on those political sermons. We need our churches involved in these very important political issues. So long as the sermons are expository in nature and stick to the context of scripture and the word is rightly divided then there is no problem with being "political".

I'm for preaching the issues. I just believe getting into the endorsement business is not good. Inevitably, people will let you down. We should preach the truth and let people make up their own minds on politics. I think if our preaching is well done we should expect a good result.

As for me, I'd prefer to just leave particular politicians out of the discussion.
 

Revmitchell

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I'm for preaching the issues. I just believe getting into the endorsement business is not good. Inevitably, people will let you down. We should preach the truth and let people make up their own minds on politics. I think if our preaching is well done we should expect a good result.

As for me, I'd prefer to just leave particular politicians out of the discussion.

I do not endorse anyone. Trouble with it is if I were to do so then later some skeleton in their closet comes out and I have mudd on my face. Having a politician at my church is not an endorsement.
 

rlvaughn

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At Jeffress’ First Baptist Church of Dallas, Trump Support Is Part of a 150-Year Tradition

I think this article is sort of lop-sided, but nevertheless makes the point that political support is not something new that Robert Jeffress started.

But the First Baptist Church of Dallas didn’t just get political. It’s been that way for a long time.
That maybe slightly overstates things, but Jeffress has a point. He didn’t bring politics to the First Baptist Church of Dallas. He’s not doing something new. This is a tradition for the Texas church celebrating its 150th anniversary.
James Britton Buchanan Cranfill, an ordained Baptist minister, was the 1892 Prohibition party candidate for vice president of the United States. At some point in life he was a member of First Baptist, but probably not at the time he was running.
 
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Revmitchell

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Candidate support and political sermons were a regular part of many churches at the founding of this country.
 

rlvaughn

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If I remember my Baptist history, Baptist preacher John Leland was an exceptionally strong supporter of Virginia politician Thomas Jefferson.
 
I do not endorse anyone. Trouble with it is if I were to do so then later some skeleton in their closet comes out and I have mudd on my face. Having a politician at my church is not an endorsement.

Exactly. That is my point. And of course personally we all vote and pray and hopefully seek God's will in all these matters.
 
At Jeffress’ First Baptist Church of Dallas, Trump Support Is Part of a 150-Year Tradition

I think this article is sort of lop-sided, but nevertheless makes the point that political support is not something new that Robert Jeffress started.



James Britton Buchanan Cranfill, an ordained Baptist minister, was the 1892 Prohibition party candidate for vice president of the United States. At some point in life he was a member of First Baptist, but probably not at the time he was running.

I didn't know that much about the church and I don't mean to single out Jeffress as a singular example. Lot's of preachers get political. I don't think it helps the cause of Christ. I don't mean to pick on anyone in particular.
 
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