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Do you see Islam mentioned at all in bible, as being part of future prophecy ?

Hazelelponi

Member
Will it be part of the end times then in a significant fashion?

It's only in the Bible in context of being antichrist because it's a false teaching.

It's really only a problem because there's a large number who think they have a mandate to kill Jews and Christians and subjugate all the people of the earth under Islam...

If the early church could face down what they did in the victory of Christ then so can we face down this minor thing with confidence because we already have the victory.

We preach Christ and Him crucified until He returns for the salvation of sinners.
 

JesusFan

Well-Known Member
It's only in the Bible in context of being antichrist because it's a false teaching.

It's really only a problem because there's a large number who think they have a mandate to kill Jews and Christians and subjugate all the people of the earth under Islam...

If the early church could face down what they did in the victory of Christ then so can we face down this minor thing with confidence because we already have the victory.

We preach Christ and Him crucified until He returns for the salvation of sinners.
Islam does seem to be pushing along by very spirit of Antichrist
 

Hazelelponi

Member
Islam does seem to be pushing along by very spirit of Antichrist

It's definitely antichrist... No doubt.

I found from personal experience of both faiths, if Christianity has an opposite it's found in Islam.

However, it's not the only belief that is antichrist. It's just one form anti-christ has.

I would actually think it's far less dangerous than some because it's not something hidden or sneaky about it. It openly states opposition to God and His people.

The more dangerous is what is less obvious and found within that opposes God and His people no less stringently.
 

Charlie24

Active Member
It's definitely antichrist... No doubt.

I found from personal experience of both faiths, if Christianity has an opposite it's found in Islam.

However, it's not the only belief that is antichrist. It's just one form anti-christ has.

I would actually think it's far less dangerous than some because it's not something hidden or sneaky about it. It openly states opposition to God and His people.

The more dangerous is what is less obvious and found within that opposes God and His people no less stringently.

There's no doubt about that! Islam believes the Jehovah God of the OT is Allah.

They straight up deny the Bible saying that Ishmael (the father of the Muslim nations) received the birthright rather than Isaac.
 

timf

Member
Most prophecy regards Israel. Since Islam arose during the age of grace, I do not see it specifically mentioned.

However the Ezekiel 38-39 war has not happened yet and involves many Islamic neighbors of Israel. It may be after the rapture that these will attack Israel.
 

Wesley Briggman

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Edited to meet posting requirements.

\Hamas | Definition, History, Ideology, & Facts | Britannica
Hamas, militant Palestinian nationalist and Islamist movement in the West Bank and Gaza Strip that is dedicated to the establishment of an independent Islamic state in historical Palestine.

H2555 - ḥāmās - Strong's Hebrew Lexicon (kjv)

ḥāmās

From חָמַס (H2554)

KJV Translation Count — Total: 60x

The KJV translates Strong's H2555 in the following manner:
violence (39x), violent (7x), cruelty (4x), wrong (3x), false (2x), cruel (1x), damage (1x), injustice (1x), oppressor (with H376) (1x), unrighteous (1x).

violence, wrong, cruelty, injustice

חָמָס châmâç, khaw-mawce'; from H2554; violence; by implication, wrong; by metonymy unjust gain:—cruel(-ty), damage, false, injustice, × oppressor, unrighteous, violence (against, done), violent (dealing), wrong.

Brown-Driver-Briggs Lexicon [?](Jump to Scripture Index)

STRONGS H2555:
Abbreviations

BLB Scripture Index of Brown-Driver-Briggs​

Genesis
6:11; 6:11; 6:13; 16:5; 16:5; 49:5
Exodus
23:1
Deuteronomy
19:16
Judges
9:24; 9:24
2 Samuel
22:3; 22:49; 22:49; 22:49
1 Chronicles
12:17
Job
16:17; 19:7
Psalms
7:17; 7:17; 7:17; 11:5; 18:3; 18:49; 25:19; 27:12; 35:11; 55:10; 58:3; 72:14; 73:6; 74:20; 140:2; 140:5; 140:12
Proverbs
3:31; 4:17; 10:6; 10:11; 13:2; 16:29; 26:6
Isaiah
53:9; 59:6; 60:18
Jeremiah
6:7; 20:8; 51:35; 51:35; 51:46
Ezekiel
7:11; 7:23; 8:17; 12:19; 28:16; 45:9
Amos
3:10; 6:3
Obadiah
1:10
Jonah
3:8
Micah
6:12
Habakkuk
1:2; 1:3; 1:9; 2:8; 2:17
Zephaniah
1:9
Malachi
2:16
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kyredneck

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Site Supporter
Pre-Muhammad, but:

Genesis Chapter 16

12​

And he shall be as a wild ass among men; his hand shall be against every man, and every man`s hand against him; and he shall dwell over against all his brethren.
 

Charlie24

Active Member
Pre-Muhammad, but:

Genesis Chapter 16

12​

And he shall be as a wild ass among men; his hand shall be against every man, and every man`s hand against him; and he shall dwell over against all his brethren.

Perfect description of radical Islam.

The brethren they (Muslim nations) shall dwell around is Israel.
 

Charlie24

Active Member
Abraham fathered both Isaac and Ishmael, brethren.

Here I go again! This is an example of the difference in the KJV and others.

The KJV says, "and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren."

Whereas the version you used said, "and he shall dwell over against all his brethren."

"All his brethren" is including Israel, by way of Isaac.
 

JesusFan

Well-Known Member
It's definitely antichrist... No doubt.

I found from personal experience of both faiths, if Christianity has an opposite it's found in Islam.

However, it's not the only belief that is antichrist. It's just one form anti-christ has.

I would actually think it's far less dangerous than some because it's not something hidden or sneaky about it. It openly states opposition to God and His people.

The more dangerous is what is less obvious and found within that opposes God and His people no less stringently.
Its a Satanic counterfeit of the highest order, as it gives to Muslims a new false god, false prophet, and a false book
 

JesusFan

Well-Known Member
Most prophecy regards Israel. Since Islam arose during the age of grace, I do not see it specifically mentioned.

However the Ezekiel 38-39 war has not happened yet and involves many Islamic neighbors of Israel. It may be after the rapture that these will attack Israel.
Does seem to show Muslim nations attacking Israel in end days
 

Hazelelponi

Member
Abraham fathered both Isaac and Ishmael, brethren.

He did. Abraham is the father of us all, and Isaac was given the inheritance as the eldest.

Of course we know this was to highlight and enter into law the precedent of having the younger inherit, because now Jesus, the younger child, though the only begotten Son, inherits due to the legal precedents set that a father can do as he will for his own reasons and purposes in inheritance to the child of promise.

Jesus Christ is the inheritor of ALL the promises of God (For all the promises of God find their Yes in him. That is why it is through him that we utter our Amen to God for his glory. 1 Corinthians 1:20) and because His Father is rich He shares His inheritance with us. (Romans 8:17)

People want to ignore this because they think dirt more important than knowing God. Dirt is meaningless... It's never once been about dirt.

Christ already owns all the dirt on the face of the earth.
 
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Hazelelponi

Member
Edited to meet posting requirements.

\Hamas | Definition, History, Ideology, & Facts | Britannica
Hamas, militant Palestinian nationalist and Islamist movement in the West Bank and Gaza Strip that is dedicated to the establishment of an independent Islamic state in historical Palestine.

H2555 - ḥāmās - Strong's Hebrew Lexicon (kjv)

ḥāmās

From חָמַס (H2554)

KJV Translation Count — Total: 60x

The KJV translates Strong's H2555 in the following manner:
violence (39x), violent (7x), cruelty (4x), wrong (3x), false (2x), cruel (1x), damage (1x), injustice (1x), oppressor (with H376) (1x), unrighteous (1x).

violence, wrong, cruelty, injustice

חָמָס châmâç, khaw-mawce'; from H2554; violence; by implication, wrong; by metonymy unjust gain:—cruel(-ty), damage, false, injustice, × oppressor, unrighteous, violence (against, done), violent (dealing), wrong.

Brown-Driver-Briggs Lexicon [?](Jump to Scripture Index)

STRONGS H2555:
Abbreviations

BLB Scripture Index of Brown-Driver-Briggs​

Genesis
6:11; 6:11; 6:13; 16:5; 16:5; 49:5
Exodus
23:1
Deuteronomy
19:16
Judges
9:24; 9:24
2 Samuel
22:3; 22:49; 22:49; 22:49
1 Chronicles
12:17
Job
16:17; 19:7
Psalms
7:17; 7:17; 7:17; 11:5; 18:3; 18:49; 25:19; 27:12; 35:11; 55:10; 58:3; 72:14; 73:6; 74:20; 140:2; 140:5; 140:12
Proverbs
3:31; 4:17; 10:6; 10:11; 13:2; 16:29; 26:6
Isaiah
53:9; 59:6; 60:18
Jeremiah
6:7; 20:8; 51:35; 51:35; 51:46
Ezekiel
7:11; 7:23; 8:17; 12:19; 28:16; 45:9
Amos
3:10; 6:3
Obadiah
1:10
Jonah
3:8
Micah
6:12
Habakkuk
1:2; 1:3; 1:9; 2:8; 2:17
Zephaniah
1:9
Malachi
2:16
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Just a heads-up but that's illegitimate. Hamas is the acronym for 3 Arabic words that mean in English the Islamic resistance movement.

In the Hamas charter they glossed it as 3 letters HMS, which is where Hamas comes from. The acronym in Arabic also carries the meaning in English of zeal.

If you wanted to look up the word Hamas you would have to translate the word zeal and look it up, which doesn't give you the same result in the Bible.

Also, there's no Islamic resistance movement in the Bible by name.

You just have to know enough about Scripture to actually know what false prophets and antichrists are .. but if you do Islam is easily proven wrong using proofs that are real and lasting.

Not to discourage you in any way, but it's better if we do the real thing.
 

JesusFan

Well-Known Member
He did. Abraham is the father of us all, and Isaac was given the inheritance as the eldest.

Of course we know this was to highlight and enter into law the precedent of having the younger inherit, because now Jesus, the younger child, though the only begotten Son, inherits due to the legal precedents set that a father can do as he will for his own reasons and purposes in inheritance to the child of promise.

Jesus Christ is the inheritor of ALL the promises of God (For all the promises of God find their Yes in him. That is why it is through him that we utter our Amen to God for his glory. 1 Corinthians 1:20) and because His Father is rich He shares His inheritance with us. (Romans 8:17)

People want to ignore this because they think dirt more important than knowing God. Dirt is meaningless... It's never once been about dirt.

Christ already owns all the dirt on the face of the earth.
Isaac alone was the Child of the Abrahamic Promised Covenant, and the line of the Promised Messiah
He did. Abraham is the father of us all, and Isaac was given the inheritance as the eldest.

Of course we know this was to highlight and enter into law the precedent of having the younger inherit, because now Jesus, the younger child, though the only begotten Son, inherits due to the legal precedents set that a father can do as he will for his own reasons and purposes in inheritance to the child of promise.

Jesus Christ is the inheritor of ALL the promises of God (For all the promises of God find their Yes in him. That is why it is through him that we utter our Amen to God for his glory. 1 Corinthians 1:20) and because His Father is rich He shares His inheritance with us. (Romans 8:17)

People want to ignore this because they think dirt more important than knowing God. Dirt is meaningless... It's never once been about dirt.

Christ already owns all the dirt on the face of the earth.

Ironic that Muhammed Himself not of an Ishmaelite though
 
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