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Does a Sinner Have to Do Anything to Be Saved?

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Aaron

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There are some who are teaching a false view on salvation, that is based on their theological bias, and has nothing to do with the teachings found in the Holy Bible, which should be our final Authority on all matters.

It is argued, that the sinner has nothing that they have "to do", to be saved. It is wrongly supposed, that, for anyone to "do" anything, it is the same as "working for their salvation". This, of course is complete nonsense, and is refuted by many passages from Scripture, from which I have provided a few examples. It is also falsely argued, that the sinner does not even need to "repent" of their sins, BEFORE they can be saved, and that "regeneration" is not the same as "salvation". These teachings are in direct opposition with what the Holy Bible teaches, and no doubt the work of the enemy, who has deceived some into a "false gospel", leading to a "false salvation".

It is very clear to those who seek to know the truth as taught in the Bible, that the first sermon preached by Peter, on the Day of Pentecost, resulted in many "turning" from their sins, to the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ. After Peter had finished preaching, we are told that the people were "cut to the heart" (Acts 2:37), which is being "convicted" by the preaching under the power of God the Holy Spirit. These people who were "convicted", said to Peter, "what shall we DO?", which is an "action". Peter replied, that they should "REPENT", in the first place, and then after this, to get "baptized" (2:38). In the following chapter, we read, "REPENT therefore and be converted, for the blotting out of your sins" (3:19). It is clear that REPENTANCE leads to "forgiveness of sins". This is also clearly taught by Jesus Christ, where we read in Luke 13:-1-5, that, "unless you REPENT, you will all likewise perish". Again, before His Ascension, the Lord commanded His Disciples, that "REPENTANCE for the forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in his name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem.”. Some again wrongly hold that "repentance" is no more than "changing one's mind" on their view of Jesus Christ, and does not involve any notion of "sorrow of personal sins". Scripture is very clear that this is not true!

In the account of the Rich Young Ruler, we read,

“And someone came to Him and said, “Teacher, what good thing shall I DO that I may obtain eternal life?”” (Matthew 19:16)

If what this person said to Jesus was "theologically wrong", as some suppose, do you not think that Jesus would have corrected him? Surely He would have said, there is nothing that you need to DO. But, this is not the case!

A very good example can be found in the Book of Jonah, which is one of the best accounts in the Bible on Evangelism, and the Greatness of God's Love and Mercy. Here is a nation that is very sinful and wicked, and great enemies of the Jews, which is the main reason why Jonah sis not want to take the Gospel Message to them. They were not even the "elect" of God, which was the Nation Israel. And, YET, God, Who is RICH in MERCY (unlike some today!) sent is Prophet to warn them of the coming punishment, IF they did not "REPENT", and turn to the Lord for His Mercy and forgiveness! When Jonah finally did give them the Gospel Message, the reaction of these people is truly wonderful.

"Then the people of Nineveh believed in God; and they called a fast and put on sackcloth from the greatest to the least of them. When the word reached the king of Nineveh, he arose from his throne, laid aside his robe from him, covered himself with sackcloth and sat on the ashes. He issued a proclamation and it said, “In Nineveh by the decree of the king and his nobles: Do not let man, beast, herd, or flock taste a thing. Do not let them eat or drink water. But both man and beast must be covered with sackcloth; and let men call on God earnestly that each may turn from his wicked way and from the violence which is in his hands. Who knows, God may turn and relent and withdraw His burning anger so that we will not perish.”When God saw their deeds, that they turned (repented) from their wicked way, then God relented concerning the calamity which He had declared He would bring upon them. And He did not do it.” (Jonah 3:5-10)

It is important to note, that it says, "God saw their DEEDS", or, as some versions read, "WORK". But, this is NOT the "work to earn" that is being referred to here. Rather, as it goes on to say, "that they turned from their wicked way", that is, "REPENTED", which the Bible very clearly calls here, a WORK! This is very clearly in connection with salvation from sins. Some have sought to "get around" this account, by suggesting that it has nothing to do with "salvation", but only showing God's kindness and care for this nation! WOW, what depths some sink to to disregard the Word of God"!

I will give a couple more examples from Scripture, which is very clear that ALL sinners must DO something to get saved, which is to REPENT and BELIEVE, which is what Jesus says in Mark 1:15.

““Now, therefore,” says the Lord, “Turn to Me with all your heart (repent), With fasting, with weeping, and with mourning.” So rend your heart, and not your garments; Return to the Lord your God, For He is gracious and merciful, Slow to anger, and of great kindness; And He relents from doing harm. Who knows if He will turn and relent, And leave a blessing behind Him” (Joel 2:12-14)

“ But if a wicked man turns from all his sins (repents) which he has committed, keeps all My statutes, and does what is lawful and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die. None of the transgressions which he has committed shall be remembered against him; because of the righteousness which he has done, he shall live. Do I have any pleasure at all that the wicked should die?” says the Lord God, “and not that he should turn from his ways and live?(repents)... Again, when a wicked man turns away from the wickedness (repents) which he committed, and does what is lawful and right, he preserves himself alive.” (Ezekiel 18:21-23, 27)

Can ANY honest, unbiased, believer in the Lord Jesus Christ, deny, in the face of such Bible Testimony, that REPENTANCE and FAITH, are pre-requirements for ALL sinners who want salvation in the Lord Jesus Christ? We must not forget, that without the working of the Holy Spirit in the heart of the sinner, before they are saved, where He convicts them of their sins, and points them to the Lord Jesus Christ, as their personal Saviour. As we read in John 16:

“But now I am going to Him who sent Me; and none of you asks Me, ‘Where are You going?’ But because I have said these things to you, sorrow has filled your heart. But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you.And He, when He comes, will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment; concerning sin, because they do not believe in Me; and concerning righteousness, because I go to the Father and you no longer see Me; and concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world has been judged." (5-11)

Ad Dei Gloriam
Here we go again.

Is a tree an apple tree because it bears apples, or does it bear apples because it is an apple tree?

One can't gather grapes of thorns or figs of thistles, and a tree cannot make its own root whole.

Like a newborn taking its first breath, it breathes because it is alive. So repentance is work of faith, and faith is the first fruit of the new birth.

". . . and that not of yourselves. It is the gift of God."
 

Saved-By-Grace

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Here we go again.

Is a tree an apple tree because it bears apples, or does it bear apples because it is an apple tree?

One can't gather grapes of thorns or figs of thistles, and a tree cannot make its own root whole.

Like a newborn taking its first breath, it breathes because it is alive. So repentance is work of faith, and faith is the first fruit of the new birth.

". . . and that not of yourselves. It is the gift of God."

not so, it is "salvation" which is the main point in this Ephesians passage that it is "gift" of God, and not faith, which is used by some , purely on theological grounds! "By grace your have been SAVED, because of faith".

Dr A T Robertson, Greek scholar:

"For by grace (têi gar chariti). Explanatory reason. "By the grace" already mentioned in verse Eph 2:5 and so with the article. Through faith (dia pisteôs). This phrase he adds in repeating what he said in verse Eph 2:5 to make it plainer. "Grace" is God's part, "faith" ours. And that (kai touto). Neuter, not feminine tautê, and so refers not to pistis (feminine) or to charis (feminine also), but to the act of being saved by grace conditioned on faith on our part. Paul shows that salvation does not have its source (ex humôn, out of you) in men, but from God. Besides, it is God's gift (dôron) and not the result of our work."
 
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TCassidy

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How can anyone interact with a "know-all"?
I don't know it all. I have never claimed to know it all. That is just another deflection to keep from answering questions you can't answer and to avoid the scripture I have posted that proves Salvation is of the Lord and not of man.
 

HankD

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Does a Sinner Have to Do Anything to Be Saved?

Yes, be in the right place at the right time.

HankD
 

agedman

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not so, it is "salvation" which is the main point in this Ephesians passage that it is "gift" of God, and not faith, which is used by some , purely on theological grounds! "By grace your have been SAVED, because of faith".

Dr A T Robertson, Greek scholar:

"For by grace (têi gar chariti). Explanatory reason. "By the grace" already mentioned in verse Eph 2:5 and so with the article. Through faith (dia pisteôs). This phrase he adds in repeating what he said in verse Eph 2:5 to make it plainer. "Grace" is God's part, "faith" ours. And that (kai touto). Neuter, not feminine tautê, and so refers not to pistis (feminine) or to charis (feminine also), but to the act of being saved by grace conditioned on faith on our part. Paul shows that salvation does not have its source (ex humôn, out of you) in men, but from God. Besides, it is God's gift (dôron) and not the result of our work."
This is great.

The poster starts by attempting to refute faith is a gift. He uses A. T. Robertson statement of Ephesians 2 as proof.
"Paul shows that salvation does not have its source (ex humôn, out of you) in men, but from God. Besides, it is God's gift (dôron) and not the result of our work."​

The obvious question oozes:
Is the "grace" to believe also the "power" to believe?​

Does not God give BOTH?

The central question of interpreting Ephesians is not to attempt to limit the gift as ONLY, but to see the gift in the whole.

God gives the authority, the power, the right, the unction to believe just as John 1 states of those that do not turn from the light.

There is no universal human ability that can attain God's attention such that HE does first bestow upon the individual.

HE ALONE is the AUTHOR and the FINISHER of faith. (Hebrews 12)
 

Aaron

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not so, it is "salvation" which is the main point in this Ephesians passage that it is "gift" of God, and not faith, which is used by some , purely on theological grounds! "By grace your have been SAVED, because of faith".

Dr A T Robertson, Greek scholar:

"For by grace (têi gar chariti). Explanatory reason. "By the grace" already mentioned in verse Eph 2:5 and so with the article. Through faith (dia pisteôs). This phrase he adds in repeating what he said in verse Eph 2:5 to make it plainer. "Grace" is God's part, "faith" ours. And that (kai touto). Neuter, not feminine tautê, and so refers not to pistis (feminine) or to charis (feminine also), but to the act of being saved by grace conditioned on faith on our part. Paul shows that salvation does not have its source (ex humôn, out of you) in men, but from God. Besides, it is God's gift (dôron) and not the result of our work."
That's bull poop.

One more time.

Men do not gather grapes of thorns or figs of thistles, and a corrupt tree cannot bring forth good fruit.
 
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