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Does Election/predestination FORCE one to do something against their will?

SolaSaint

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Reformed theology says we do nothing to seek after God and no one is good, we are depraved in sin, so our will is against God and when we are regenerated unto salvation I guess that would be considered against our will. The Potter molds us as He wills, some for Glory and some for dishonor.

What that tells us is that God changes our will. What we once didn't seek, we now desire. I do believe that the lost truly don't want God in their lives. Have you ever witnessed to someone like that. So I would save their will is not stuck or forced but right where they want to be. :thumbsup:
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Reformed theology says we do nothing to seek after God and no one is good, we are depraved in sin, so our will is against God and when we are regenerated unto salvation I guess that would be considered against our will. The Potter molds us as He wills, some for Glory and some for dishonor.

What that tells us is that God changes our will. What we once didn't seek, we now desire. I do believe that the lost truly don't want God in their lives. Have you ever witnessed to someone like that. So I would save their will is not stuck or forced but right where they want to be. :thumbsup:

I agree.:thumbsup:
 

Yeshua1

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Reformed theology says we do nothing to seek after God and no one is good, we are depraved in sin, so our will is against God and when we are regenerated unto salvation I guess that would be considered against our will. The Potter molds us as He wills, some for Glory and some for dishonor.

What that tells us is that God changes our will. What we once didn't seek, we now desire. I do believe that the lost truly don't want God in their lives. Have you ever witnessed to someone like that. So I would save their will is not stuck or forced but right where they want to be. :thumbsup:

So would you agree that Judas was indeed 'stuck" by God to be the fulfillment of prophey concerning one to turn against Messiah, but that Judas willingly chose to fulfill that role, not foreced/coerxced?
 
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