Does God get "hurt" by people who reject him?

[Yelsew]

Originally posted by ScottEmerson:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Primitive Baptist:
If God loves every man, woman, and child without exception, where is the evidence? Please do not say the Cross...we know multitudes upon multitudes die without ever hearing about that. So...?

Beloved, let us love one another. For love is of God, and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. He who loves not knows not God, for God is love. I John 4:7-8

We are to love all men, women, and children without exception, just as God loves them. God is love. We are to love our neighbor as ourselves. Every man, woman, and child is our neighbor.

For God so loved the world that He gave His only son... John 3:16 </font>[/QUOTE]I agree that love is of God, just as Grace, mercy and Justice are of God. I do not agree that God is love. for if God is love, then Love is God!

According to 1 John 4:7,8, To say that "God so love the world" is to say that "love so loved the world..." or "God so Godded the world..."

 

[npetreley]

Originally posted by Yelsew:
I do not agree that God is love. for if God is love, then Love is God!

The Bible says God is Love, so it is true.

I can see now why you have so much trouble with some of the debates. You are having trouble with basic logic. If God is love, it does not follow that Love is God. The fact that you assumed it does is what allows some people to get away with bizarre logical statements that are incorrect. Here's are some obviously incorrect applications of this logical fallacy to make the point:

All rabbits are furry creatures.
Therefore all furry creatures are rabbits.

Obviously this is not true. But generally people are more subtle with their misapplied logical fallacies. Here's a humorous example:

God is love.
Love is blind.
Ray Charles is blind.
Therefore Ray Charles is God.

If this were believable, it would depend on the audience not being able to see that you cannot reverse the equivalancy of "God is love". The only reason it would make sense to procede from "God is love" to "Love is blind" is if you assume that when you say "God is love" it must also be true that "Love is God", and that you can reverse all of these statements and still make them true. But it doesn't work that way, so this argument should fall apart at the second line and you should never even get to Ray Charles.

 

[Yelsew]

The Truth is John the Apostle stated that God IS Love, He did not say that Rabbits are furry critters.

You are staunch about LITERAL application of the whole of scripture yet you refute this literal application of scripture! Go figure...!

 

[Frogman]

Originally posted by Yelsew:
The Truth is John the Apostle stated that God IS Love, He did not say that Rabbits are furry critters.

You are staunch about LITERAL application of the whole of scripture yet you refute this literal application of scripture! Go figure...!

However, the beloved Apostle knew the difference in worship of the true God that is love and worship of love that is idolatry.
In the HO of this frog, this is the attempt of free-willism; and anything else that tries to impose upon God the emotional nature of man. Go figure.

Bro. Dallas

 

[Yelsew]

Originally posted by Frogman:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Yelsew:
The Truth is John the Apostle stated that God IS Love, He did not say that Rabbits are furry critters.

You are staunch about LITERAL application of the whole of scripture yet you refute this literal application of scripture! Go figure...!

However, the beloved Apostle knew the difference in worship of the true God that is love and worship of love that is idolatry.
In the HO of this frog, this is the attempt of free-willism; and anything else that tries to impose upon God the emotional nature of man. Go figure.

Bro. Dallas

</font>[/QUOTE]You fail to recognize that there is a whole branch of "Christianity" that has at its core this one scripture of John. All who believe in love are members of that branch, regardless of how love is manifested.

 

[npetreley]

Originally posted by Yelsew:
The Truth is John the Apostle stated that God IS Love, He did not say that Rabbits are furry critters.

You are staunch about LITERAL application of the whole of scripture yet you refute this literal application of scripture! Go figure...!

I'm confused. I could swear you were the one refuting the literal application of the scripture "God is love", and that based on a lack of understanding that such a statement is not reciprocal. Perhaps I misread your post.

 

[Frogman]

Originally posted by Yelsew:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Frogman:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Yelsew:
The Truth is John the Apostle stated that God IS Love, He did not say that Rabbits are furry critters.

You are staunch about LITERAL application of the whole of scripture yet you refute this literal application of scripture! Go figure...!

However, the beloved Apostle knew the difference in worship of the true God that is love and worship of love that is idolatry.
In the HO of this frog, this is the attempt of free-willism; and anything else that tries to impose upon God the emotional nature of man. Go figure.

Bro. Dallas

</font>[/QUOTE]You fail to recognize that there is a whole branch of "Christianity" that has at its core this one scripture of John. All who believe in love are members of that branch, regardless of how love is manifested. </font>[/QUOTE]What branch is that "Davidian"?

You consistently fail to realize that Christ commanded the church to teach "ALL" that he had commanded them. This "All" prohibits the forming of this or any branch a 'theology' founded upon one Scripture because they want to focus on one attribute of God.

Let us pray they will realize God's Holy Spirit inspired much more than one verse in Scripture.

Bro. Dallas

 

[Yelsew]

I agree with you in prayer for the God is Love group.

 

[romanbear]

Hi Frogman;
A quote from you;
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God is not subject to emotion. In the flesh, of course Christ was emotional.
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Your wrong plain and simple.
1Jo 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

If God is Love then He would have to be very emotional because Love is emotion.

1Jo 4:10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

Why do you think God sent His son in to the world? If He didn't have an emotion called Love. Enough of it to send His own Son to pay our penality.

Zep 3:17 The LORD thy God in the midst of thee is mighty; he will save, he will rejoice over thee with joy; he will rest in his love, he will joy over thee with singing.

This last verse certainly sounds like an emotional God to me.

No frogman; God's name is not Spock.

Romanbear

 

[Frogman]

Live long and prosper Romanbear

These scripture you have provided are well noted, however, they do not teach that God is emotional in the way that you and I are; would we consign any of our loved ones or close friends to the pit of Hell? No, why not, because they are covered in the Righteousness of God which is in Jesus Christ, or because we "love" them? I think this satisfactoraly shows to me and to you that the foundation of the "emotions" of God are driven from His Holiness and not from the ideas of emotional reaction engaged by man.

God Bless.
Bro. Dallas

 

[Yelsew]

Originally posted by Frogman:
Live long and prosper Romanbear

These scripture you have provided are well noted, however, they do not teach that God is emotional in the way that you and I are; would we consign any of our loved ones or close friends to the pit of Hell? No, why not, because they are covered in the Righteousness of God which is in Jesus Christ, or because we "love" them? I think this satisfactoraly shows to me and to you that the foundation of the "emotions" of God are driven from His Holiness and not from the ideas of emotional reaction engaged by man.

God Bless.
Bro. Dallas

John 11:35, Jesus wept! Weeping is a manifestation of emotion, and Jesus is not only a manifestation of God, but IS God the Son.

 

[Frogman]

Jesus wept in the capacity of his humanity. Good try though. He also felt real pain on the cross, and while being beaten, and in the coronation of the crown of thorns, and the unbearable weight of carrying his cross after being interrogated all through the night. All of this are manifestations of his mediatorship as man, being able to take hold of man and his ability to endure these things were manifestations of his Diety, being able to take hold of God and thus become the daysman.

Bro. Dallas

 

[Yelsew]

Jesus wept in the capacity of his humanity. Good try though.

How many centuries did God the Son have to observe His blessed Jerusalem to arrive at the point of tears? I think you overlook the depth of the scripture.