Does God have A General/Specific Will Towards Sinners Then?

[JesusFan]

Does he view those lost in their sinful state in "2" ways?

He has a general Will, based upon his very nature, to love them, as he created them, and has His image on them...

He also has a specific Will, towards those he has chosen to elect/save out from all of those in His general Will...

God so loved the World General love, His very nature, gave to atone for entire World His only begotten Son

Those he foreknew he predestined to be confirmed into image of his Son Specific Will

Can God have "2 wills" and would this answer Why bible seems to say at times "whole World' other "His elect"?

 

[sag38]

It is not God's will that any should perish but that all.............

 

[Salty]

It is not God's will that any should perish but that all.............

Amen and Amen :godisgood:

 

[Osage Bluestem]

Does God love everyone?

 

[MamaCW]

It is not God's will that any should perish but that all.............

'nough said hehe:jesus:

 

[quantumfaith]

So grateful to be shallow, inept and vacuous. Oh first reference was in Romans 9....big surprise.

 

[Iconoclast]

It is not God's will that any should perish but that all.............

Actually....this is not taught anywhere in the bible. It is God's will that multitudes get saved,and multitudes perish.

22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity

7And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

God is very willing that many perish.

He is not willing that any he died for perish however.All of them will be saved.

1This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:

2That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:

3Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

4And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

5For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

6Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

7But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

8But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

9The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 10But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

11Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

13Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

14Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

15And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

 

[HankD]

Does God have A General/Specific Will Towards Sinners Then?

He has a both a general and specific will for ALL men and has made it know...

Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:​

Revelation 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.​

HankD​

 

[quantumfaith]

He has a both a general and specific will for ALL men and has made it know...

Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:​

Revelation 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.​

HankD​

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[sag38]

Iconoclast, this has already been debated ad-nausea here. You allow your so called "named theology" to cloud your interpretation. Sorry Iconoclast, but I'll take the verse at face value. "All" means all. And, no this does not lead to "universalism." And yes, I do "get it." And yes, I am a born again believer even though I don't agree with you.

 

[Iconoclast]

Iconoclast, this has already been debated ad-nausea here. You allow your so called "named theology" to cloud your interpretation. Sorry Iconoclast, but I'll take the verse at face value. "All" means all. And, no this does not lead to "universalism." And yes, I do "get it." And yes, I am a born again believer even though I don't agree with you.

Yes..all means all here...exactly...now if you look at the context you will see it is the to-usward, the beloved, in contrast to the unbelieving scoffer.

The all that is being spoken of will be saved.Not one will perish, because God has decreed it.

 

[sag38]

Opposing Interpretation Methods:
Face Value Method
Between the Lines Method

I'll take the face value method thank you.

 

[Iconoclast]

Opposing interpretation methods;

Understand a verse in it's context,both the chapter, the book, and the bible; then declare that truth faithfully

or

Wrench the passage out of its biblical and theologigal context,assign any feel good meaning to the passage, ignore context..and then just say..... well my bible says.....