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Does God Require Your Permission to Save You?

Does God Require Your Permission to Save You?

  • Of Course! He can't just go around saving people against their will!

    Votes: 2 25.0%

  • Uh. . . He's God. He does as He wishes, and BTW, who would complain about being saved?

    Votes: 6 75.0%
  • Total voters
    8
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JohnDeereFan

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HankD said:
John 11:43 And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth.


HankD
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Actually, Einstein, that isn't an example of a dead man opening a door, but of Christ calling a dead man back to life.

If anything, it illustrates my point that it is Christ who calls us to salvation when we are spiritually dead and, thus, cannot make the decision to repent and receive Christ on our own.
 
HankD

HankD

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JohnDeereFan said:
Actually, Einstein, that isn't an example of a dead man opening a door, but of Christ calling a dead man back to life.

If anything, it illustrates my point that it is Christ who calls us to salvation when we are spiritually dead and, thus, cannot make the decision to repent and receive Christ on our own.
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OK.

HankD
 
Rhetorician

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BobRyan said:
God does not ask your position to "knock on your door", to evangelize you,
Rev 3 "Behold I STAND at the door and knock".

But instead of "blasting the door open", He calls and waits for the person to choose to either open the door ... or not.

"He came to HIS OWN and His OWN received Him not" John 1:11
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Dear Brother Bob,

I must make inquiry. Is that a "soul-winning" verse? Or is it a "soul-winning" verse used out of context? (I so unlike using sarcasm, but as a personality quirk and a teaching tool used by me in the classroom it works.)

I think, if you look at that verse more closely and in context our Lovely Lord Christ was asking to be readmitted to the Church which had put him out.

No doubt that verse has been used by zealous "soul-winners" over periods of years. But sometimes "soul-winners" are not necessarily good exegetes. But then, what difference does being a good reader and interpreter of the Scriptures matter?

Realize the blessings God has given you in Christ alone today.

rd
 
thatbrian

thatbrian

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Rhetorician said:
Dear Brother Bob,

I must make inquiry. Is that a "soul-winning" verse? Or is it a "soul-winning" verse used out of context? (I so unlike using sarcasm, but as a personality quirk and a teaching tool used by me in the classroom it works.)

I think, if you look at that verse more closely and in context our Lovely Lord Christ was asking to be readmitted to the Church which had put him out.

No doubt that verse has been used by zealous "soul-winners" over periods of years. But sometimes "soul-winners" are not necessarily good exegetes. But then, what difference does being a good reader and interpreter of the Scriptures matter?

Realize the blessings God has given you in Christ alone today.

rd
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Well said and exceedingly patient in tone. Let's hope it's effective.
 
delizzle

delizzle

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thatbrian said:
Does God need your permission to save you? If so, why?
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Did the father force the prodigal son to return or did the son return willingly on his own? However, the good shepherd did leave the flock to find the one lost sheep. So it is a good question to ask that requires some thought and reflection.

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Yeshua1

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delizzle said:
Did the father force the prodigal son to return or did the son return willingly on his own? However, the good shepherd did leave the flock to find the one lost sheep. So it is a good question to ask that requires some thought and reflection.

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The very definition of being God would be that NIONE can prevent His will getting done in the end!
 
delizzle

delizzle

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Yeshua1 said:
The very definition of being God would be that [NONE] can prevent His will getting done in the end!
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Would it be wrong to say that God is so powerful that His will be done regardless of free will? It would be an insult to imagine that God would require forcing His will upon others. I would think that a supremely sovereign God could accomplish His will regardless of anyone's decisions.
 
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Mr. Davis

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delizzle said:
Would it be wrong to say that God is so powerful that His will be done regardless of free will. It would be an insult to imagine that God would require forcing His will upon others. I would think that a supremely sovereign God could accomplish His will regardless of anyone's decisions.

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He does!!

See my earlier response to you in God's Sovereignty Thread!!
 
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