Does Jesus still speaks to people today as He did to Paul?

[longhino]

Of course, because I only speak of God’s Word.
The Bible is the written Word of God. Longhino goes against this fact.

That is so for the simple reason that Jesus and God did not teach it to the prophets, apostles, and disciples, etc.

He says that the Bible does not teach that what is written is the Word of God;

Who is your "He" here, may we know?

however, the Bible clearly states that. The Apostle with the Prophets and Jesus Christ as Chief Cornerstone laid the foundation, see Ephesians 2:20, and this is what they say:[/B]

Revelation 19:13
He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God.

See, Jesus is The Word of God and not the bible.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

The Word is Jesus per se and not the bible, do you agree?

John 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

This one, too, is Jesus and not the bible, what do you say?

 

[longhino]

Jesus still speaks to people today as He did to Paul?

He never called me Saul or Paul, because neither is my name.

Who were you then?

 

[steaver]

How did He tell you that, what did you do? Granting He did tell you that, why now ask me what,are you in doubt with what Jesus did tell you? Did He really tell you that thing, how do you know He is Jesus in the first place? What made you convinced He is really Jesus?

Why ask me when Jesus speaks to you now? You can ask those things from Jesus, can't you?

I know for sure what Jesus told me. So I guess you heard from some other spirit.

 

[Moriah]

That is so for the simple reason that Jesus and God did not teach it to the prophets, apostles, and disciples, etc.

I gave you many scriptures teaching that the gospel is the word of God.

Who is your "He" here, may we know?

The "He" is you in that sentence.

See, Jesus is The Word of God and not the bible.


The Word is Jesus per se and not the bible, do you agree?


This one, too, is Jesus and not the bible, what do you say?

The Bible is the written Word of God.

That is what I have been saying all along.

 

[steaver]

How did He tell you that, what did you do?

I read His words that He gave us via His disciples found in the Holy Bible.

"Remember the word that I (Jesus) said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me (Jesus) , they will also persecute you; if they have kept my (Jesus) saying, they will keep yours (Disciples) also. (John 15:20)

Now the Disciples themselves confirmed Paul as an apostle speaking on behalf of God.

"And account [that] the longsuffering of our Lord [is] salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all [his] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as [they do] also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know [these things] before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness." ( Disciple Peter)

I don't know what voices your are hearing in your head, but if these voices are telling you anything contrary to what the Disciples have said then they are demons deceiving you and you need to pray God to cast them away from you. Surely you do not want to be seen as one of these Peter speaks of here - being led away with the error of the wicked.

 

[longhino]

I know for sure what Jesus told me. So I guess you heard from some other spirit.

Why are you banking on guess when you can surely ask Jesus, can't you really tell us how, when, and what did Jesus talks to you?

 

[longhino]

I gave you many scriptures teaching that the gospel is the word of God.

It is only in your head that the gospel or the bible is such, those verses actually deal with the words that God uttered, but not of the bible per se which you claim to be your so called "The Word of God."

The "He" is you in that sentence.

Yes, I still maintain my statement that even the bible does not teach that the bible is "The Written Word of God."

The Bible is the written Word of God.

That is what I have been saying all along.

That is what you are claiming while I still do say that the bible contains words that God uttered then and not all in the bible are words that God uttered in the past.

 

[longhino]

I read His words that He gave us via His disciples found in the Holy Bible.

"Remember the word that I (Jesus) said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me (Jesus) , they will also persecute you; if they have kept my (Jesus) saying, they will keep yours (Disciples) also. (John 15:20)

Now the Disciples themselves confirmed Paul as an apostle speaking on behalf of God.

"And account [that] the longsuffering of our Lord [is] salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all [his] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as [they do] also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know [these things] before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness." ( Disciple Peter)

I don't know what voices your are hearing in your head, but if these voices are telling you anything contrary to what the Disciples have said then they are demons deceiving you and you need to pray God to cast them away from you. Surely you do not want to be seen as one of these Peter speaks of here - being led away with the error of the wicked.

You seem not to understand the question and it appears that you are just coming from the bible which is not God. A demon will pull us away from God, how can the One who teaches us today be a demon when all He is asking to us is to put all our trust in God and to always come and to call on to the Lord God in the reality of His own existence?

 

[Moriah]

It is only in your head that the gospel or the bible is such, those verses actually deal with the words that God uttered, but not of the bible per se which you claim to be your so called "The Word of God."


Yes, I still maintain my statement that even the bible does not teach that the bible is "The Written Word of God."


That is what you are claiming while I still do say that the bible contains words that God uttered then and not all in the bible are words that God uttered in the past.

Have you ever been a banned member from this group?

 

[longhino]

Have you ever been a banned member from this group?

I'm not sure, I just joined this forum, why?

 

[Moriah]

I'm not sure, I just joined this forum, why?

Do you feel unsure and confused about many things?

 

[longhino]

Do you feel unsure and confused about many things?

No, with respect to salvation, eternal life, God, and Paradise, I am definitely sure that I learned those things from the LOrd Jesus Christ hence I'm at peace and assured.

 

[Moriah]

No, with respect to salvation, eternal life, God, and Paradise, I am definitely sure that I learned those things from the LOrd Jesus Christ hence I'm at peace and assured.

You do not even know if you have ever been banned from this group before.

 

[longhino]

You do not even know if you have ever been banned from this group before.

I can't remember various sites where I was a member before.

 

[steaver]

You seem not to understand the question and it appears that you are just coming from the bible which is not God. A demon will pull us away from God, how can the One who teaches us today be a demon when all He is asking to us is to put all our trust in God and to always come and to call on to the Lord God in the reality of His own existence?

Blasphemy! The bible is God's Word, one reads the bible - one hears from God. The Holy Spirit teaches HIs children this. If one does not have this understanding from the Spirit, then one has not God.

"He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear [them] not, because ye are not of God." (John 8)

 

[longhino]

Blasphemy! The bible is God's Word, one reads the bible - one hears from God. The Holy Spirit teaches HIs children this. If one does not have this understanding from the Spirit, then one has not God.

You seem not to know again what blasphemy means, can you blaspheme a book?

"He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear [them] not, because ye are not of God." (John 8)

To whom can we hear today God's Words? It is only from the Lord Jesus in the realm of His own existence that we can hear pure and genuine God's Words, what more can't you understand? Why do you equate the bible as God's words in that verse when it is very clear that the word "heareth" is used and NOT "readeth?" To whom shall we hear God's Words?

 

[steaver]

To whom can we hear today God's Words? It is only from the Lord Jesus in the realm of His own existence that we can hear pure and genuine God's Words, what more can't you understand? Why do you equate the bible as God's words in that verse when it is very clear that the word "heareth" is used and NOT "readeth?" To whom shall we hear God's Words?

"...... if they have kept my (Jesus) saying, they will keep yours (Disciples) also."

How are you keeping the Disciple's sayings? Do you hear them speaking to from heaven?

 

[longhino]

Blasphemy! The bible is God's Word, one reads the bible - one hears from God. The Holy Spirit teaches HIs children this. If one does not have this understanding from the Spirit, then one has not God.

"He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear [them] not, because ye are not of God." (John 8)

How can we blaspheme things under the creation of God? Does the verse you quoted above says "He that is of God heareth the bible/scriptures?" When we hear God, we are hearing God's words because words that God will utter to us are simply God's words. Actually, you are just making your own doctrine based on your own understanding of what you read in the bible. God's per se in that verse above is not the bible per se.

 

[longhino]

"...... if they have kept my (Jesus) saying, they will keep yours (Disciples) also."

How are you keeping the Disciple's sayings? Do you hear them speaking to from heaven?

It is the teaching of the Lord Jesus Christ that I keep today. And yes, I heard the Lord Jesus, not Paul nor Peter, by and through His own way of communication, and I learned spritual things from Him, too. Naturally, Paul and Peter cannot speak today but the Lord Jesus in the realm of His own existence, He is the One who can speak to us, don't you want to literally hear Jesus today in His own way of communicating with mankind?

 

[steaver]

It is the teaching of the Lord Jesus Christ that I keep today. And yes, I heard the Lord Jesus, not Paul nor Peter, by and through His own way of communication, and I learned spritual things from Him, too. Naturally, Paul and Peter cannot speak today but the Lord Jesus in the realm of His own existence, He is the One who can speak to us, don't you want to literally hear Jesus today in His own way of communicating with mankind?

Actually, you do not keep the Lord Jesus Christ's teaching when you reject the testimony of His own Dsciples. You preach another Jesus then the One found in the Bible.

Can you give a couple of examples of these spiritual things you have learned apart from the bible?