Does KJV-only teaching affect or harm Bible doctrine of Sanctification?

[HeirofSalvation]

have you spoken with John privately about all of this?

it seems to be full of venom and vinegar

I hope I am misreading it

Did you bother to notice that John of Japan had an entire thread wherein he TRASHED KJVO's
for their committment to international missions?

Oh, I know he said it quite sweetly:
But, he essentially accused all KJVO's of not being Biblically sound on missions (while, of course, simultaneously crying about money that apparently Hammond owes him or something)...
But the point of it was no more or less venomous and full of vinegar (a wonderful preservative). than anything else.

 

[Logos1560]

No one on this board thinks we should make them.
Only Logos and John of Japan will deceitfully suggest to you that there are persons who insist on that.

You fail to prove your unsound, bogus accusations to be true. You provide no direct quotations from me or from John where we supposedly claim the words that you improperly attempted to put in our mouths.

I have accurately quoted what some KJV-only advocates have claimed, but I have not claimed that all KJV-only advocates agree with those authors.

On his TV program discussing Bible translations, John Ankerberg asked Samuel Gipp, a KJV-only advocate, the following question: "So if a guy is in Russia and he really wants to get to the truth of the Word of God, would he have to learn English?" Samuel Gipp's reply was "Yes" (Which English Translation, p. 1).

In his fundamentalist publication Church Bus News (July-Dec., 1993), Wally Beebe stated: "My constant reference to the King James Version, being in fact the inspired Word of God and our authority, is very important as a prerequisite to salvation" (p. 11).

 

[HeirofSalvation]

Did you bother to notice that John of Japan had an entire thread wherein he TRASHED KJVO's
for their committment to international missions?

Oh, I know he said it quite sweetly:
But, he essentially accused all KJVO's of not being Biblically sound on missions (while, of course, simultaneously crying about money that apparently Hammond owes him or something)... He seems REALLY bent out of shape about some perceived money he thinks he's owed by them.

In fairness: They probably do owe it to him....
In fairness: It was most likely 20+ years ago.....

But the point of it was no more or less venomous and full of vinegar (a wonderful preservative). than anything else.

 

[HeirofSalvation]

You fail to prove your unsound, bogus accusations to be true. You provide no direct quotations from me or from John where we supposedly claim the words that you improperly attempted to put in our mouths.

I have accurately quoted what some KJV-only advocates have claimed, but I have not claimed that all KJV-only advocates agree with those authors.

On his TV program discussing Bible translations, John Ankerberg asked Samuel Gipp, a KJV-only advocate, the following question: "So if a guy is in Russia and he really wants to get to the truth of the Word of God, would he have to learn English?" Samuel Gipp's reply was "Yes" (Which English Translation, p. 1).

In his fundamentalist publication Church Bus News (July-Dec., 1993), Wally Beebe stated: "My constant reference to the King James Version, being in fact the inspired Word of God and our authority, is very important as a prerequisite to salvation" (p. 11).

O.K. You win.
I actually find you merely a passably interesting debate opponent.

I neither like you, dislike you, love you, or hate you. or anything you have to say.

I NOTHING you, or your books, or your opinions.

Occassionally, I am in the mood to debate you, just for kicks (or something)...Because your logic is easy to poke holes in...
Even if your conclusions are correct (they often are)....but your logic is so horrific it's just fun to pick on you.
You are an entertainment device to me...
Yoi have never been anything else.

I don't take you seriously.
Don't take me seriously.
Practically every response I make to you is tounge-in -cheek.
YOU'RE RIGHT LOGOS!
WHY didn't I notice your in-depth research before!

Don't try to "win" the debate with me....
There IS no debate:
I agree with about 85% of everything you say....

I also know it's stupid and irrelevant:

I'm not "serving the cause of Christ" by responding to you. I don't think you're signifigant enough.

Neither am I.

I'm just amusing myself.

 

[Logos1560]

Oh, I know he said it quite sweetly:
But, he essentially accused all KJVO's of not being Biblically sound on missions .

He clearly did not claim what you alleged. You misunderstood or else you are misrepresenting what he said. He clearly did not accuse all as you incorrectly and improperly claim. You seem to be the one doing the attempted trashing of a godly believer and missionary. You clearly show that you do not practice what you preach.

 

[HeirofSalvation]

He clearly did not accuse all as you incorrectly and improperly claim.

Then MAYBE ALL KJVO's don't fall into the category that he was accussing them of!
IF that is so then LOGICALLY there is no direct link between KJVO and a failure at missions...
That absolutely was his claim!

Actually, I just think he's mad about some money he thinks he's got coming (since the story is over 20 years old). But, hey, I can't account for him.

I just know he spent countless hours crying about money he thinks Hammond Indiana owes him, and (that was over 2 decades ago?).....
And, he tries to make that a KJVO issue.

What can I say:
I doubt I should think a lot of John R. Rice as a family man if his grandkids are such crybabies.....but, I will assume I'm mistaken.

 

[Logos1560]

Practically every response I make to you is tounge-in -cheek.

Are you trying to excuse your unproven and even false accusations and bearing false witness by saying it is only "tongue-in-cheek"?

 

[HeirofSalvation]

Are you trying to excuse your unproven and even false accusations and bearing false witness by saying it is only "tongue-in-cheek"?

I'm saying I do little but toy with you on this board:
And, I don't take you seriously.
I never have.

You probably shouldn't take me seriously either.
But, I doubt you could help yourself.

 

[Logos1560]

I'm saying I do little but toy with you on this board:

You may possibly think that throwing out vain and false accusations or insults and bearing false witness are not serious matters with God, but the Scriptures disagree (Exod. 20:16; Exod. 23:1, Eph. 4:25).

 

[HeirofSalvation]

And, I don't take you seriously.

Lemme double-down actually:

I think, despite the VOLUMES of random verbiage you copy-paste on this board:
I don't actually think you know what you're talking about.

I don't think you understand KJVO's at all. I don't think you are actually qualified to speak on the topic:

I think you confuse obtuse amounts of research for knowledge, and you think you understand the issue because of the (admittedly) ABSURD amount of time and work you've put into it.

I respect the work you've put into this:
I think you are stupid for having bothered to do so.

 

[HeirofSalvation]

You may possibly think that throwing out vain and false accusations or insults and bearing false witness are not serious matters with God, but the Scriptures disagree (Exod. 20:16; Exod. 23:1, Eph. 4:25).

Oh, I don't care what you think about the Scriptures B.T.W:
I know you don't care what I think either so....why post this?

 

[HeirofSalvation]

I think that James White spent one tenth of the amount of time and research you have:
And I paid money for his book:
Read it thoroughly twice: (didn't find it particularly helpful)....but, it was reasonably scholarly and well-written for all that.

I have paid zero dollars and zero cents for your book....which you've no doubt made little from and spent INFINITELY more time and research on.

Don't worry, I'll never accuse you of having written it for the money:
You didn't make any money.
You wrote it in order to become relevant:
Too bad the KJVO issue isn't very relevant LOL!

 

[Salty]

Time to close this discussion
as your point has been made abundantly clear
and end it - ie - do NOT start a new thread on this