Does Psalm 12:7 refer to the words of God?

[TCassidy]

To give the impression that doctrines are not affected or impacted by the different text types and versions is flat out wrong:

Not a single doctrine is changed by the textual variants. The article you posted, written by a well known KJVO extremist with no knowledge of Hebrew, Greek, textual criticism, or manuscript evidence, is so full of fallacy that it hardly bears reading.

If you want to post articles please find those written by people who actually know what they are talking about.

 

[TCassidy]

I cannot accept the principles and theories behind the critical texts.

So you cannot accept the principles and theories behind the King James Version?

After all, "critical" just means "examine closely" and that is exactly what the KJV translators did. They "examined closely" the Bishops' Bible and the Hebrew and Greek texts and made determinations based on that "close examination."

Why would you suddenly come out against the KJV?

 

[TCassidy]

And please tell me why it is bad to cite Will Kinney?

Ask him where he goes to church.

 

[Revmitchell]

I think sometimes we let the numbered divisions in the Bible pigeon hole us to an improper understanding of scripture. My take on this is the following:

1.) We have the declaration of the problem:



2.) We have a judgment pronounced:



3. We have a promise of hope declared:



4.) We have the reason for the promise:



5.) We have the reason why this hope is trustworthy:

I mistakenly quoted the wrong portion of scripture under number two. I should have posted:

The LORD shall cut off all flattering lips, and the tongue that speaketh proud things:

Why our time to edit has been reduced to such a short amount of time I have no idea. It is not helpful.

 

[Jordan Kurecki]

This game of such-and-such version omits verses, or changes meanings can be played against the KJV.


KJV OMITS Holy Spirit, denying inspiration

Acts 4:25
25 You spoke by the Holy Spirit through the mouth of your servant, our father David:
" 'Why do the nations rage and the peoples plot in vain? [NIV]

25 Who by the mouth of thy servant David hast said, Why did the heathen rage, and the people imagine vain things? [KJV]


KJV REMOVES God as “Holy One“, instead uses generic term “holy”

Proverbs 9:10 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding. [NIV]

Proverbs 9:10 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, And the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding. [NKJV]

Proverbs 9:10 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding. [KJV]


KJV OMITS Jesus Christ our Lord

Jude 25
25 to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen. [NIV]

25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen. [KJV]


I could go on and on...

So you admit that there are doctrinal differences between different versions?

 

[Internet Theologian]

It's interesting the the room made for allowances of KJVO's into their camp. As long as one is KJVO, they're welcome, initiated, cited, honored, authoritative.

Will Kinney is allegedly Calvinist, and most KJVO as far as I know are adamantly anti-Cal. But hey, as long as you're KJVO, you're 'in', thus he, Will Kinney is quoted and 'an authority'.

Then there is the issue of KJVO starting with SDA? I don't know much on this, but this is allegedly where it began. Has anyone else heard of this?

 

[TCassidy]

So you admit that there are doctrinal differences between different versions?

So, what doctrines does the KJV omit?

 

[Jordan Kurecki]

So, what doctrines does the KJV omit?

I do not believe it omits any.

 

[Revmitchell]

So you admit that there are doctrinal differences between different versions?

That is not what he said. In fact it is not even remotely close to what he said.

 

[TCassidy]

I do not believe it omits any.

But InTheLight just showed you where the KJV Omits the Holy Spirit, denying inspiration, Removes God as being the Holy One, and omits Christ the Lord.

Here, I will post his quote.

KJV OMITS Holy Spirit, denying inspiration

Acts 4:25
25 You spoke by the Holy Spirit through the mouth of your servant, our father David:
" 'Why do the nations rage and the peoples plot in vain? [NIV]

25 Who by the mouth of thy servant David hast said, Why did the heathen rage, and the people imagine vain things? [KJV]


KJV REMOVES God as “Holy One“, instead uses generic term “holy”

Proverbs 9:10 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding. [NIV]

Proverbs 9:10 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, And the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding. [NKJV]

Proverbs 9:10 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding. [KJV]


KJV OMITS Jesus Christ our Lord

Jude 25
25 to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen. [NIV]

25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen. [KJV]

 

[InTheLight]

So you admit that there are doctrinal differences between different versions?

No. There are different translations of particular verses, when taken in isolation, may strengthen or weaken certain doctrines. But taking each translation as a whole there are no missing or differing doctrines.