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Does The New Testament Teach Irresistible Grace?

Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by Martin, Jul 16, 2005.

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  1. Corry Cox

    Corry Cox New Member

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    johnp has repeated this over and over but I guess it bears repeating once again. Here it is in more than one translation.

    The operative action for salvation is the grace of God. By Grace!!!

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    #121 Corry Cox, Jul 18, 2005
  2. johnp.

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    It bears repeating. :cool:

    john.
     
    #122 johnp., Jul 18, 2005
  3. johnp.

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    Hello KJ.
    Me? What do I need with a sense of humour I'm a Calvinist?

    john.
     
    #123 johnp., Jul 18, 2005
  4. OCC

    OCC Guest

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    #124 OCC, Jul 18, 2005
  5. Wes Outwest

    Wes Outwest New Member

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    Corry,
    Can you tell me in your own words and your own understanding exactly how grace does what you have accepted that it does do?

    By the way, I also have many translations at my disposal. The translators are pretty consistant regarding Pauls words. And I do believe that Paul said exactly what has been translated into the English language. So you don't need to keep throwing that at me.

    Just tell me HOW grace saves and you win! Oh, you may have to define exactly what Grace is in order to convince me that what you describe as grace can actually do what you say it can do.
     
    #125 Wes Outwest, Jul 18, 2005
  6. Wes Outwest

    Wes Outwest New Member

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    Me? What do I need with a sense of humour I'm a Calvinist?

    john.     </font>[/QUOTE]It may be helpful to have one when your election does not get you there! [​IMG]
     
    #126 Wes Outwest, Jul 18, 2005
  7. rc

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    I guess that's why we never understand Wes. Everything he says must be all a joke.
     
    #127 rc, Jul 18, 2005
  8. Wes Outwest

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    what da ya mean? I added a laugher to my joke.
     
    #128 Wes Outwest, Jul 18, 2005
  9. here now

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    RC,
    It's funny you should say that. As I was logging on, this thought came to my mind: maybe Wes posts these posts and then sits back and gets the biggest laugh at us.
     
    #129 here now, Jul 18, 2005
  10. Wes Outwest

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    Here now,
    You give me entirely too much credit. I'm not smart enough to play games like that...but I am beginning to learn from you all.
     
    #130 Wes Outwest, Jul 18, 2005
  11. here now

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    Wes says:
    ...but I am beginning to learn from you all.
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    That would be wonderful!
     
    #131 here now, Jul 18, 2005
  12. johnp.

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    Hello Wes.
    It may be helpful to have a sense of humour if I fail in election? No there will be no time for humour it is punishment without relief, even comic relief.
    I do not need to await the count I won a very infinite majority and have began to reign. A Royal Priesthood a chosen nation.

    john.
     
    #132 johnp., Jul 18, 2005
  13. OCC

    OCC Guest

    "A Royal Priesthood a chosen nation."

    And I am part of it. [​IMG] Praise God from whom all blessings flooooowwww!!! [​IMG]
     
    #133 OCC, Jul 18, 2005
  14. johnp.

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    Flo's a very nice girl as well. :cool:

    john.
     
    #134 johnp., Jul 18, 2005
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    OCC Guest

    haha
     
    #135 OCC, Jul 18, 2005
  16. Askjo

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    Some said that the NT teaches resistible grace. Which is right?
     
    #136 Askjo, Jul 18, 2005
  17. Wes Outwest

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    Some said that the NT teaches resistible grace. Which is right? </font>[/QUOTE]How many warnings against falling away can you find in the New testament?

    How many admonitions to "Keep the faith baby"?

    The answers should give you a clue.
     
    #137 Wes Outwest, Jul 18, 2005
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    Some said that the NT teaches resistible grace. Which is right? </font>[/QUOTE]Common grace is resistible. Saving grace is not.
     
    #138 whatever, Jul 18, 2005
  19. Wes Outwest

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    Another Baskin-Robbins 31-varieties of Grace post.

    Common grace

    Saving grace.

    If grace saves, why don't both of these save?
     
    #139 Wes Outwest, Jul 18, 2005
  20. rc

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    That's a silly question.

    If Baskin Robbins made chocolate, why aren't they ALL chocolate. All the FLAVORS are ice cream though. God's unmerited favor is on everyperson. For health, protection, rain, sunshine, wind... etc. This is grace it is UNMERITED favor. We all deserve Stillborn death.
    Anything other than that is grace. It is COMMON to us all. But this has nothing to do with saving grace. That grace is election. Elected to receive the ability to put our faith in Christ. Not all recieve it.
     
    #140 rc, Jul 18, 2005
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