Does the New Testament teach us that we can use instrumental music in worship

Some errors in your post:

• Singing may be a part of worship. The two are not synonymous.
• The Psalms is not the law.
• The NT is also silent about singing polyphonically. Does that mean singing in parts is wrong? Of course it does...using your logic. Yet the CoC sings parts (quite beautifully, I might add). Ya'll should stop that, according to your logic. It says in scripture to make melody in your heart. Using your logic, that excludes harmony and rhythm. So why do you guys do something the Bible is silent on?

There are more inconsistencies than this; but I don't want to make my post too long.

 

I guess you're only going to be silent when it's convenient.

The argument from silence adds a command to the word of God that wasn't originally there. You are adding to the word of God. It's dishonest for you to state that you aren't. It's dishonest and insults everybody's intelligence. We deserve better than that.

It's completely ludicrous to suggest that you can rip out the parts of the Bible that are inconvenient to you.

I haven't yelled at you, and I don't appreciate you yelling at me.

If you want to continue discussing this like an adult, then I suggest you don't use Caps Lock when responding to my post. Otherwise, please go join the children's table because I won't be responding to any other post in which you feel it necessary to yell at me.

I'll be waiting for your apology.

Now, to the topic.

Do you have any idea what worship is really about? Do you think you can't worship God with your speech? Because if you don't, then your understanding of worship is severely lacking. If you do, then you are doing something that God did not explicitly command, which is using the English language.

Yes, I realize it's a totally absurd argument, but no more absurd than the arguments you've been making.

What are you talking about? You said that you don't use the English language to worship God. I pointed out the fact that you don't seem to have an understanding of what worship is.

Again, I'll be waiting on your apology for yelling at me.

 

again - you cannot use the NT without using the OT - they are so intertwined that they wouldn't work without eachother.

the ten commandments - were written on stone - in hebrews it labels it the "tables of the covenant"

im going to do some research on what the scriptures mean when it says that the "handwriting of ordinances" were nailed to the cross.

just remember - the new covenant was to the house of israel and the house of judah - and God's law was written on their hearts.

we are grafted in - and so the same goes for us who are grafted in. God's law is written on our hearts.
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yeah - do need to do some research. catch ya'll later.

 

okay, you can't put a boat together without some kind of fastening device, but you can sing without instrumental music.

Categorical error #2. "Can" does not imply "must."

does singing sound the same with instrumental music. no it doesn't, it is adding extra sound. so it is adding and it is not an aid.

Now you've departed from Scripture and started just inventing arguments. Where does the Bible prohibit anything on the basis of it "sounding different"?

 

That must not be true, since no NT scripture says so.

 

GWIT -
Do you really expect me to "throw out" the OT? Not happening. Christ did not come to "throw out" the OT. He is the fulfillment of the Law. For the past 7 months we've been studying through the Bible in our youth group. We studied Samuel's Response to God last night, the lesson being listening for God's voice. An important lesson, no?

Worship is more than music, singing, raising hands, and anything you worship other than God is an idol, hands down.

Anything you put before your God is an idol and something you worship.
Anything you want with all your heart is an idol and something you worship.
Anything you can't stop thinking of is an idol and something you worship.
Anything that you give all your love is an idol and something you worship.

It really has very little to do with music, and everything to do with attitude... in my opinion. "Worship in spirit and truth" is an attitude and not a category.

 

What are you supposed to wear when you worship? If the NT is silent on what clothes to wear in worship, are we to wear nothing?

 

You must be right Blammo---seems for some people silence means no!!!:type:

Bro Tony

 

and for you married folks - silence in marriage is not a good thing - is it...

i had to put that in there. haha.

 

First Church of the Sanctified Streaker?

In further news, it was discovered there was a hole in the wall of the First Church of the Sanctified Streaker's sanctuary.

Police are looking into it. :laugh:

Now, back to your regularly scheduled programming...

 

Ann, that's a semantic fight that I often undertake. "Worship" may happen when we sing...but singing and worship are not synonymous.

 

Christ tells us to assemble, so what do we do, we assemble, there are many ways to assemble. in a home, in a building, in a barn, anywhere. he didn't specify how to assemble or what to wear in an assembly. so we are at liberty to do whatever we want to within the command to assemble. the scriptures tell us to sing, that is what we do, we sing, so we are at liberty to do whatever we want to within the command to sing. singing doesn't involve instruments unless it is mentioned.

Lacking any sort of Scriptural proof, the only distinction between these two examples apparently is an arbitrary one existing between your ears.

 

So...since scripture DOESN'T mention instruments, we can't use them.

However...

...since scripture DOESN'T mention 4-part harmony (even though it mentions "melody"), it's OK?

I'm going to take a dramamine. Your logic has made me dizzy.:tongue3:

Now, where's that pitch pipe of mine?

 

Very good point!! so since it doesn't say to worship God with singing, it would be a sin to do so.... right, GWIT?

Where does your bible tell us to worship in song? It says to sing, but doesn't say to sing during worship.

 

Christ tells us to sing, so what do we do, we sing, there are many ways to sing.
and make melody in your heart. etc.

it is unbiblical to say that musical instruments must be used to make melody.

it is not unbiblical to say that musical instruments can be used to make melody

 

Don't know if this was mentioned before. If so, I apologize for the redundancy.

The Jews did not use instruments for worship in the synagogues. They saw their proper place to be in the temple where David, being a prophet, ordained them to accompany sacrificial rites. Christians in the first centuries also shunned the use of instruments in worship. They came in through Roman Catholicism with other shadows of the law, e.g. incense, priesthood, priestly garb, etc.

I just bring this up to show that there is a stronger tie between instruments and the law than we many realize.

 

Do you have a scholarly source for these assertions?

Any ancient texts from the early Christian Fathers?