Does the New Testament teach us that we can use instrumental music in worship

We had a chap in one of my pastorates who was rather loud in everything. He spoke loudly and he "sang" loudly........and out of tune. Everyone sort of smiled when he "sang" and some even complained, saying he should refrain from singing. Well, that came to pass. He died of a sudden heart failure whilst working his fields. Then, everyone complained they could no longer hear him "sing" on Sunday morning.

I guess that about says everything about singing in church and making a joyful noise unto the Lord. I recall remarking at his funeral that God enjoyed his singing so much He called him to enjoin the heavenly choir. Everyone knew what I meant.

Cheers,

Jim

 

I agree Tater that edifying is an important part of our responsibility, but we also are called to expose false teachers. To not use instruments in church is fine, but to teach that those who do so dishonour God is false teaching and must be exposed as such.

 

David praised the Lord with instruments of musick - and the Lord was pleased.

God does not change.

so i will praise the Lord with my instrument - and the Lord will be pleased.

 

If God has given me a talent to play, I can present him a gift, an offering by using that talent. If that same gift - using that same talent - is offered along with our voices, that, too, honors God.

 

I haven't chined in as of yet, but have you thought of the dictionary definition of the word "sing?"

These definitions come from Dictionary.com

1. To utter a series of words or sounds in musical tones.
2. To vocalize songs or selections.
3. To perform songs or selections as a trained or professional singer.
4. To produce sounds when played: made the violin sing.
5. To make melodious sounds: birds singing outside the window.
6. To give or have the effect of melody; lilt.
7. To produce the musical sound of: sang a love song.
8. To utter with musical inflections: She sang the message.
9. To bring to a specified state by singing: sang the baby to sleep.
10. To intone or chant (parts of the Mass, for example).
11. To proclaim or extol, especially in verse: sang his praises.

Notice there are some non-vocal definitions. Another question, must text be involved for it to be singing?

I'm a singer and conductor. I know of several vocal pieces that include vocalizations but no text - are these "sung"? Yes!

Also, must it be in unison? There is no record of or command for part singing in the NT.

I tend to agree that this is a very much a prooftexted idea. What I see is us trying to make the Bible agree with our tradition.

Have a great day. I do enjoy singing unaccompanied, but I enjoy instrumental accompaniment and instrumental solos as well.

Tim

 

And maybe this was also the reason no instruments were mentioned. Drew too much attention, and who really had time and energy anyway? (And maybe also money for them). That still is not a ban.
No matter what, the two issues (instruments and buildings) are exactly the same!

 

Gib here. Of all the opinions on the issue, yours is one of them. Don't be mad at me.

 

Tony here. Just goes to show that one doesnt have to be biblical, logical, consistent or intelligent to have an opinion.:smilewinkgrin:

Bro Tony

 

Jim here!.....:wavey: Just because I can.

Cheers,

Jim

 

10 reasons why electricity is wrong in worship


1) There is no command in the New Testament for Christians to use electricity in the worship of the church.

2) There is no example in the New Testament of a church, apostle, teacher, or any Christian ever using electricity in worship.

3) It is not of faith, therefore it is sin (Romans 14:23).

4) It is going beyond that which is written (1 Corinthians 4:6).

5) It violates the command to "work"

6) Work is commanded; the use of electricity is an "addition" to this command, and therefore it is wrong.

7) The use of electricity in worship to God is a failure to "abide in the doctrine of Christ" (2 John 9).

8) Those who use electricity in worship "reject" the authority of Christ (Matthew 28:19; Luke 6:46).

9) It cannot be done "in the name" (or by the authority) of Jesus (1 Corinthians 4:6; Colossians 3:17).

10) From the above evidences, the use of electricity in worship is obviously not from Heaven, so it must be from men (Matthew 21:25).

Rob

 

2 Chronicles 34:10-12



And they put it in the hand of the workmen that had the oversight of the house of the LORD, and they gave it to the workmen that wrought in the house of the LORD, to repair and amend the house:


Even to the artificers and builders gave they it, to buy hewn stone, and timber for couplings, and to floor the houses which the kings of Judah had destroyed.



And the men did the work faithfully: and the overseers of them were Jahath and Obadiah, the Levites, of the sons of Merari; and Zechariah and Meshullam, of the sons of the Kohathites, to set it forward; and other of the Levites, all that could skill of instruments of music

Have we discovered verses that trump these ? Seems like instruments were used in O/T times, that's been established.

 

Can we think of any more?

10 reasons why carpeting is wrong in worship

1) There is no command in the New Testament for Christians to use carpeting in the worship of the church.

2) There is no example in the New Testament of a church, apostle, teacher, or any Christian ever using carpeting in worship.

3) It is not of faith, therefore it is sin (Romans 14:23).

4) It is going beyond that which is written (1 Corinthians 4:6).

5) It violates the command to "stand fast"

6) Being steadfast is commanded; the use of carpeting is an "addition" to this command, and therefore it is wrong.

7) The use of carpeting in worship to God is a failure to "abide in the doctrine of Christ" (2 John 9).

8) Those who use carpeting in worship "reject" the authority of Christ (Matthew 28:19; Luke 6:46).

9) It cannot be done "in the name" (or by the authority) of Jesus (1 Corinthians 4:6; Colossians 3:17).

10) From the above evidences, the use of carpeting in worship is obviously not from Heaven, and is base so it must be from men (Matthew 21:25).

Rob

 

Ok, OK,,,,,,,I repent.

Cheers,

Jim

 

Hey fellows, welcome me to the board!

This might be slightly irrelevent, but what do you guys think about Worship in Art?

Also, I believe that laundry listing and altering scripture doesn't support an arguement on how Instrumental worship is accepted in the New Testament. My experience as a lead worshipper might be alittle unprofessional for you considering that i'm a leader for a youth ministry and i'm only 17, but I can honestly say as a follower of Christ that Instrumental worship carries the holy spirit just as well as vocal worship. Considering us humans are proof of Jesus Christ and since we can debate all day on whether the New Testament states that instrumental worship is ok or not, why not look at how Instrumental worship has reflected on people in this generation. I can vouch for the fact that this type of Worship has lead people to Christ, and isn't that what it's all about?

The fact that you are altering scripture to support your cause doesn't really excerise the Freedom we have through Christ. I believe that Christ calls us to worship him through many means.


Jon.

 

Nobody wore ties in the NT.

They sure didn't use the KJV in the NT.

PA systems ? Ha!

What about those abominable pamphlet holders ? Where does Christ tell us to use those ?

Bus ministry ? Good luck reconciling that with scripture.

Oh yeah, where did Christ promise tax exempt status for a church ?

Repent!!!!! Thars EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVIL afoot, says I.

 

Question everyone, why do we define worship as NT worship and OT worship? I know Christ came and died that we might live, but did worship change because Christ died? I believe we still worship the same GOD so any example of worship in the Bible is still valid.

 

Get a grip will you Dustin and stop taking things out of context that would be ADDING to the bible by twisting it around to fit your needs.

 

To all you Church of Christ that have come on here to stir a pot so to speak here is something just for you. Since you think that your church was established on the day of pentecost which by the way is obserb you are exactly what you claim you are not and that is a denomination weather you like it or not. But now for the fun.

Rom 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offenses contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.

2Ti 2:23 But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do engender strifes.

Tit 3:9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.


My question to you Church of Christ members who have come to a baptist board to argue and try and show how you are right and everybody else is wrong, please dont forget what the bible says in the verses above because IT IS UNPROFITABLE AND VAIN and in my opion is done with malice so that you can oh whats the word oh ya BOAST.
Rom 2:23 Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonorest thou God?

Rom 11:18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.

 

5) It violates the command to "sing" (Ephesians 5:19; Colossians 3:16).

If the assembly instructions for my Ikea bookshelves tell me to use the little disposable screwdriver included in the box to put the shelves together, am I "violating" those instructions if I also use a Phillips screwdriver, level, and mallet from my own toolbox to make the job a little easier?