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agedman

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”social credit system”

The thinking is about as anti-Christ as can be, yet I wonder how very many supposed believers, who rely upon the typical media manipulation for not only entertainment in their news and pleasures, but also for their worship, will respond to this phenomenon.

Prof Warns: Social Credit to Shift Law ‘From Constitution to Analytics, Algorithm’

I placed this in this forum so scholarship involving scripture principles of personal accountability and freedoms can be addressed.

I am not desiring political posts, but posts that will provide Scripture principles so that pastors and Spiritual leaders may rightly prepare and address this coming trend.

At what point do families resolve to present Scriptures of both support or refusal concerning this trend.

My personal consideration concerns that this will eventually lead to a generalized persecution of resistance believers under the guise of “not submitting to the rulers.”

Your thoughts?
 

Jerome

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If someone is interested in this sort of thing, I would think a place to start would be sermons of old timey Canadian Baptist Fundamentalist Bill Aberhart (founded the Social Credit movement in Alberta 80+ years ago!)

The Christian Right in Canada

"The Social Credit Party, founded in 1935 represented a major change in Canadian religious politics. Until that time, fundamentalists had shunned politics as "worldly", and a distraction from the proper practice of religion. However, the new party was founded by fundamentalist radio preacher and Bible school teacher William Aberhart....Aberhart mixed his own interpretation of scripture and prophecy with the monetary reform theories of social credit to create a movement that swept across Alberta, winning the provincial election of 1935 in a landslide. Aberhart and his disciple Ernest Manning then governed the province for the next forty years....In 1987 Manning's son, Preston Manning, founded the new Reform Party of Canada, which soon became the main party of the religious right....[It] was renamed the Canadian Alliance in 2000....In 2003 the Canadian Alliance and the Progressive Conservatives merged to create the Conservative Party of Canada"

Conservatism in Western Canada

"the Social Credit Party of Alberta formed a provincial government that favoured evangelical Christian conservatism, provincial control over natural resources, limited government intervention in the economy and a radical philosophy known as Social Credit based on providing dividends to the population to support small businesses and free enterprise."
 

agedman

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If someone is interested in this sort of thing, I would think a place to start would be sermons of old timey Canadian Baptist Fundamentalist Bill Aberhart (founded the Social Credit movement in Alberta 80+ years ago!)

The Christian Right in Canada

"The Social Credit Party, founded in 1935 represented a major change in Canadian religious politics. Until that time, fundamentalists had shunned politics as "worldly", and a distraction from the proper practice of religion. However, the new party was founded by fundamentalist radio preacher and Bible school teacher William Aberhart....Aberhart mixed his own interpretation of scripture and prophecy with the monetary reform theories of social credit to create a movement that swept across Alberta, winning the provincial election of 1935 in a landslide. Aberhart and his disciple Ernest Manning then governed the province for the next forty years....In 1987 Manning's son, Preston Manning, founded the new Reform Party of Canada, which soon became the main party of the religious right....[It] was renamed the Canadian Alliance in 2000....In 2003 the Canadian Alliance and the Progressive Conservatives merged to create the Conservative Party of Canada"

Conservatism in Western Canada

"the Social Credit Party of Alberta formed a provincial government that favoured evangelical Christian conservatism, provincial control over natural resources, limited government intervention in the economy and a radical philosophy known as Social Credit based on providing dividends to the population to support small businesses and free enterprise."
Do you consider what the professor advocates (the China model) as what conservative believers will embrace?

Or, is the article using the term “social credit” so some conservative believers will accept it?
 

MB

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Do you consider what the professor advocates (the China model) as what conservative believers will embrace?

Or, is the article using the term “social credit” so some conservative believers will accept it?
This IMHO would justify discrimination. Discrimination is hatred plain and simple IMO. It seems to me that this would promote Gossiping. Then gossip would discredit those who are being gossiped about. Or improperly credit them. What a world this would be. It would be a time for backbiting.
MB.
 

agedman

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This IMHO would justify discrimination. Discrimination is hatred plain and simple IMO. It seems to me that this would promote Gossiping. Then gossip would discredit those who are being gossiped about. Or improperly credit them. What a world this would be. It would be a time for backbiting.
MB.
Interesting post!

When it comes to personal interaction, or even that of a group, it is true that "discrimination" has gotten a bad reputation. It is a reactive word that has been used to liable and label and more often doesn't really fit.

For example: I do not know a person who ever lived that did and does not practice discrimination. Even in the Scriptures, discrimination is taught in a manner that is righteous. However, just as all other aspect of our Savior, the enemy has made mockery and perversion out of what is good.

Here is a scripture presentation on "discrimination."
In Acts 11: The apostle Peter, having already had 3000 conversions, a healing and even one raised from the dead as a direct result of the Lord working through him, returned from journey to a gentile house. The group of the "circumcision" criticized Peter in verse 2. They "took issue" with him fellowshipping and delivering the gospel to the uncircumcised. The word for "criticism, took issue" is "diakarino" - to judge, to discriminate, to distinguish.

Now just a bit further, Peter uses the same word to show that such was exactly righteousness in action. It is found in verse 12. "Making no distinction" ESV, "doubting nothing" NKJV, "without misgivings" NASB. Essentially Peter is turning the very word used against him upon the accusers to show that which was righteousness.

This is one of the fascinating items that are left out when a translation is made, and yet it gives us some guidance on how to discern the good in a word more often used in an ungodly sense.

You are correct that gossip is wrong. Very bad. Not just a little damaging but to the point of destroying. The Scriptures are very clear on that point.

Just as bad is flattery.

Here is a rather interesting way to look upon the two to see how bad they really are.

Gossip is what you would say about someone behind their back that you would not say to their face.
Flattery is what you would say to their face that you would not say behind their back.

Both are evil.

There is a time for praise, and it should be in the mouth of others.

There is a time for giving information not in gossip, but in seeking out those who can bring help and guidance to the issue and even to that person.

You did wisely by discerning that both gossip and flattery are wrong!
 
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